Author: Uri Blass
Date: 23:44:43 10/29/00
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On October 29, 2000 at 22:54:34, Uri Blass wrote: >On October 29, 2000 at 22:05:58, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On October 29, 2000 at 21:18:53, Eelco de Groot wrote: >> >>>On October 28, 2000 at 18:35:32, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On October 28, 2000 at 17:59:23, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote: >>>> >>>>>GT did consider Bb7 for about one minute after 7 minutes of thinking on my PII >>>>>333 with 28 Mb hash. The analysis was similar to Sarahs' afterward. The score >>>>>did remain negative for black however. >>>>> >>>>>GT would never "under-develope" to the extent that black did. The game is a >>>>>draw even with material superiority due to the horrible back rank situation. At >>>>>least GT tells us how "not" to play. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Tim Frohlick >>>> >>>>I posted the game. >>>>I do not know if gambit would get itself to the position that I posted(I think >>>>that bxc5 was too greedy and Ba6 was better but I did not analyze the game for a >>>>long time and I may be wrong). >>>> >>>>You can try to see if there is a move in the game that gambit does not like. >>>> >>>>I see that gambit understands the position better than other programs(it can at >>>>least see that f6 has negative score) >>>> >>>>It cannot see that Bb7 is good enough for black to draw but I am not sure if Bb7 >>>>is really good enough for a draw(I only know that it was probably good enough >>>>for moshe to draw and it is possible that gambit can improve the opponent's >>>>moves after Bb7) >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>>Hi Uri, >>> >>>Maybe Tim is right and the game should be a draw. What I would like to see is a >>>good winning line for White after 14. .. f7-f6 or 14. ..f7-f5, that could tell >>>us more. >> >>Here is a winning line after 14...f5 >> >>15.Bh6 f4 16.Ng5 Nb6 17.Bxg7 Kxg7 18.Rh7+ Kg8 19.Ke2 >> >> >>I did not see a clear winning line after 14...f6 but I guess that I did not >>analyze deep enough and unfortunately moshe did not save all the analysis that >>he did but he is convinced that 14...f6 is losing. >> >>I see that I do not like black's position after 14...f6 because black has >>problems to develop the pieces and white has interesting options after 15.Bh6 >>Qe7 16.Bxg7 Kxg7 > >I think that the main line here continues >17.Qh6+ Kf7 18.Nh4 Rg8 19.Qh7+Rg7 20.Nxg6 Rxh7 21.Rxh7+ Kxg6 22.Rxe7 cxd4 >23.Bd3+ Kg5 24.Be4 c6 25.g3 fxe5 26.Rxe6 Nf6 27.Rxe5+ Kh6 28.Rc1 when white is >probably winning after 28...Nxe4 29.Rxe4 or 28...Bb7 29.Re7 Nxe4 30.Rxe4 > >This is one of the lines that moshe saved. I think that in this line better is 18.0-0-0 instead of 18.Nh4 At least I can get bigger advantage against the computer but I need to check if it is a forced win(18.0-0-0 was also one of the lines of moshe). Uri
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