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Subject: Moderation: pleast stop this before it gets started

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 05:53:18 10/30/00

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On October 30, 2000 at 05:15:11, Thorsten Czub wrote:


This seems to be 100% off-topic and has nothing to do with computer chess.
We don't really need such threads popping up here.  Nothing has been deleted,
but it should be _stopped_ at this point.



>The Argument Sketch
>
>
>
>A man walks into an office.
>
>Man: (Michael Palin) Ah. I'd like to have an argument, please.
>
>Receptionist: Certainly sir. Have you been here before?
>
>Man: No, this is my first time.
>
>Receptionist: I see. Well, do you want to have the full argument, or were you
>thinking of taking a course?
>
>Man: Well, what would be the cost?
>
>Receptionist: Well, It's one pound for a five minute argument, but only eight
>pounds for a course of ten.
>
>Man: Well, I think it's probably best if I start with the one and then see how
>it goes from there, okay?
>
>Receptionist: Fine. I'll see who's free at the moment.
>
>(Pause)
>
>Receptionist: Mr. DeBakey's free, but he's a little bit conciliatory. Ahh yes,
>Try Mr. Barnard; room 12.
>
>Man: Thank you. (Walks down the hall. Opens door.)
>
>Angry man: WHADDAYOU WANT?
>
>Man: Well, Well, I was told outside that...
>
>Angry man: DON'T GIVE ME THAT, YOU SNOTTY-FACED HEAP OF PARROT DROPPINGS!
>
>Man: What?
>
>A: SHUT YOUR FESTERING GOB, YOU TIT! YOUR TYPE MAKES ME PUKE! YOU VACUOUS
>TOFFEE-NOSED MALODOROUS PERVERT!!!
>
>M: Yes, but I came here for an argument!!
>
>A: OH! Oh! I'm sorry! This is abuse!
>
>M: Oh! Oh I see!
>
>A: Aha! No, you want room 12A, next door.
>
>M: Oh...Sorry...
>
>A: Not at all!
>
>A: (under his breath) stupid git.
>
>(The man goes into room 12A. Another man is sitting behind a desk.)
>
>Man: Is this the right room for an argument?
>
>Other Man:(John Cleese) I've told you once.
>
>Man: No you haven't!
>
>Other Man: Yes I have.
>
>M: When?
>
>O: Just now.
>
>M: No you didn't!
>
>O: Yes I did!
>
>M: You didn't!
>
>O: I did!
>
>M: You didn't!
>
>O: I'm telling you, I did!
>
>M: You did not!
>
>O: Oh I'm sorry, is this a five minute argument, or the full half hour?
>
>M: Ah! (taking out his wallet and paying) Just the five minutes.
>
>O: Just the five minutes. Thank you.
>
>O: Anyway, I did.
>
>M: You most certainly did not!
>
>O: Now let's get one thing quite clear: I most definitely told you!
>
>M: Oh no you didn't!
>
>O: Oh yes I did!
>
>M: Oh no you didn't!
>
>O: Oh yes I did!
>
>M: Oh no you didn't!
>
>O: Oh yes I did!
>
>M: Oh no you didn't!
>
>O: Oh yes I did!
>
>M: Oh no you didn't!
>
>O: Oh yes I did!
>
>M: Oh no you didn't!
>
>O: Oh yes I did!
>
>M: No you DIDN'T!
>
>O: Oh yes I did!
>
>M: No you DIDN'T!
>
>O: Oh yes I did!
>
>M: No you DIDN'T!
>
>O: Oh yes I did!
>
>M: Oh look, this isn't an argument!
>
>(pause)
>
>O: Yes it is!
>
>M: No it isn't!
>
>(pause)
>
>M: It's just contradiction!
>
>O: No it isn't!
>
>M: It IS!
>
>O: It is NOT!
>
>M: You just contradicted me!
>
>O: No I didn't!
>
>M: You DID!
>
>O: No no no!
>
>M: You did just then!
>
>O: Nonsense!
>
>M: (exasperated) Oh, this is futile!!
>
>(pause)
>
>O: No it isn't!
>
>M: Yes it is!
>
>(pause)
>
>M: I came here for a good argument!
>
>O: AH, no you didn't, you came here for an argument!
>
>M: An argument isn't just contradiction.
>
>O: Well! it CAN be!
>
>M: No it can't!
>
>M: An argument is a connected series of statements intended to establish a
>proposition.
>
>O: No it isn't!
>
>M: Yes it is! 'tisn't just contradiction.
>
>O: Look, if I *argue* with you, I must take up a contrary position!
>
>M: Yes but it isn't just saying 'no it isn't'.
>
>O: Yes it is!
>
>M: No it isn't!
>
>O: Yes it is!
>
>M: No it isn't!
>
>O: Yes it is!
>
>M: No it ISN'T! Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the
>automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says.
>
>O: It is NOT!
>
>M: It is!
>
>O: Not at all!
>
>M: It is!
>
>(The Arguer hits a bell on his desk and stops.)
>
>O: Thank you, that's it.
>
>M: (stunned) What?
>
>O: That's it. Good morning.
>
>M: But I was just getting interested!
>
>O: I'm sorry, the five minutes is up.
>
>M: That was never five minutes just now!!
>
>O: I'm afraid it was.
>
>M: (leading on) No it wasn't.....
>
>O: I'm sorry, I'm not allowed to argue any more.
>
>M: WHAT??
>
>O: If you want me to go on arguing, you'll have to pay for another five minutes.
>
>M: But that was never five minutes just now!
>Oh Come on!
>Oh this is...
>This is ridiculous!
>
>
>O: I told you... I told you, I'm not allowed to argue unless you PAY!
>
>M: Oh all right. (takes out his wallet and pays again.) There you are.
>
>O: Thank you.
>
>M: (clears throat) Well...
>
>O: Well WHAT?
>
>M: That was never five minutes just now.
>
>O: I told you, I'm not allowed to argue unless you've paid!
>
>M: Well I just paid!
>
>O: No you didn't!
>
>M: I DID!!!
>
>O: YOU didn't!
>
>M: I DID!!!
>
>O: YOU didn't!
>
>M: I DID!!!
>
>O: YOU didn't!
>
>M: I DID!!!
>
>O: YOU didn't!
>
>M: I don't want to argue about it!
>
>O: Well I'm very sorry but you didn't pay!
>
>M: Ah hah! Well if I didn't pay, why are you arguing??? Ah HAAAAAAHHH! Gotcha!
>
>O: No you haven't!
>
>M: Yes I have! If you're arguing, I must have paid.
>
>O: Not necessarily. I *could* be arguing in my spare time.
>
>M: I've had enough of this!
>
>O: No you haven't.
>
>M: Oh shut up!
>
>(Man leaves the office)



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