Author: Chris Whittington
Date: 11:56:22 01/01/98
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On January 01, 1998 at 13:10:25, Ed Schröder wrote: >>Posted by Chris Whittington on January 01, 1998 at 11:06:20: > >>First you try censorship ..... > >>Then resort to rudeness ...... > >>>Blah blah blah... > >You the master of irony can't have this? > > >>Incidentally snipping away an entire alternative explanation for the >>Mchess SSDF results. > >Perhaps Mchess is a strong program? Of course it is. That's what the argument is about. The standard view is that it cooks its strength. I don't take the standard view. But strength wasn't the snipped stuff, presumably you didn't read it. > > >>>You and I (although commercial) in our hearts still are the same as many >>>other chess programmers reading this message board. We have a passion >>>for computer chess. That's one of the reasons why our programs are good >>>and we still continue. We discuss topics here with heart and soul. > >>Fine, but not very meaningful, unless ...... > >Not very meaningful????????????? > >It's the HEART of this whole attack of yours! Your opinions you call facts, and mine attacks. > >OTHERS can FREELY speak about any chess program and can say what they >want. If I say something about "another" program should that be >different >because I happen to sell the program I have written? Yes and no. I think we need to be careful for this reason (amongst others). > >This is the WHOLE discussion in a nutshell. Then we live in parallel universes. > >You say that because Jeroen quoted Sandro Necchi 2-3 times here this >is an attack on Mchess. Perhaps Jeroen said it (and repeated it) to >prove his point in a discussion? > >Ever heard of an opinion? > >Perhaps there was no "campaign" at all? This is entirely possible. So sticking to this point instead of muddying counter-attacks would have closed it earlier. If you say it is no campaign. fair enough. But you didn't till now, just counterattacked instead. > >Ever considered that possibility? Of course ..... > >And if you are wrong you are dead wrong, no? No. There's a prima facie case for there being a campaign. patterns and repetitions. Doesn't prove it, but indicates the possibility. So you telling me there's no campaign ? Ok, fine, Marty Hirsch saya Mchess is not targeted on specific opponents. I believe this and I'll believe you. You say its just opinion expression, ok. But one thing: don't claim that if program xyz creates a fixed book line that causes program abc to fall over, that when abc counters this line with variations in book to give rise to a line that abc wins; that *each* program team is doing different things, xyz bad, and abc good. > >So the key is what you are willing to believe. Apparently you have >no high opinion of Jeroen. Not so. You're adding to the broth some mud. Jeroen is ok by me. Arguing with his opinions doesn't imply dislike. > >Well, I have talked to Jeroen. He will never do it again. He with >great care will talk about "other" programs because apparently it's >risky to speak open-minded about computer topics because you easily >can be associated with "commercial".... Who's playing victim now, then ? > >Satisfied? If we don't have to go through the same rigmarole next year, yes. > >And for your false accusations and the big topic you made out of it >this still is a moderator case. Well you know more than me there. I'm not in your agreement-clique. Do your worst, Ed. I'm off on my holiday ....... Chris Whittington > >- Ed - > > > >>>It's dirty of you to make advantage of that by implying Jeroen's >>>opinion is a "campaign" to hurt a commercial opponent and sit on >>>that statement and make it a big topic. > >>... you try and set up the famous 'mud on Rebel' defence. Sorry, Ed, >>but if you try this every time anybody ever makes a critic, it begins to >>wear a bit thin. > >>Its maybe a big topic because you never responded to any detail, instead >>you responded each time with counter attacks, hitting the messenger, >>going for censorship, being rude with blah-blah-blah and so on. > >>Chris Whittington
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