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Subject: Re: Computers and the Berlin Wall

Author: Osorio Meirelles

Date: 09:15:55 10/30/00

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On October 30, 2000 at 09:12:34, Uri Blass wrote:

>On October 30, 2000 at 07:51:33, Osorio Meirelles wrote:
>
>>Eventhough I have no analyical proof to support my statement, I am coming to the
>>conclusion than any top PC chess program could get a draw against any top
>>grandmaster as black using the Belin Wall in the Ruy Lopez ( 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6
>>3.Bb5 Nf6 4.0-0 Nxe4 5.d4 Nd6 6.BxN pd7XB 7.d4Xe5 Nf5 8.QXQ+ KXQ) I list below
>>two possibilities ( the second is stronger than the first ).
>>
>>  1 ->  These programs are likely to get a draw if they treat a draw as a win in
>>their evaluation.
>>
>>  2 ->  These programs are very likely to get a draw if their evaluation
>>function ( material, position , pawn structure ),is adjusted specifically for
>>this opening.
>>
>>This seems to me a perfect opening for computers to play agaisnt humans.  The
>>only possibility that I can see for a top computer program to go wrong is in the
>>endgame.
>
>This is not a perfect opening for computers because the target of chess is to
>win and not to get a draw.
>
>Uri

I guess I was not specific.  What I mean is that if a computer program is
playing a match in which it is  winning and there are only a few games left over
to play, then one possible target is to draw the remaining games, since that
will translate into a win of the match, and I believe this opening would make a
powerfull weapon for this purpose.  My main question is : does anyone believe
there might be a chance that good programs can get excelent results
with this opening against humans ? We can't forget that before this match, most
chess authors would consider white with a solid position.  Does that mean that
white has good winning chances ? I can“t recall any coment of the games between
Kasparov  and Kramnik, in which the main analysis point out a variation with
good oportunities for white.  I seems to me that no one really knows how white
can achieve such a favorable position.  For those who disgree with me, I would
be likely to hear from them,which variations for white they would recomend.
Is Kasparov missing something, or is it the opening ?





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