Author: Uri Blass
Date: 10:44:56 10/30/00
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On October 30, 2000 at 13:09:23, James T. Walker wrote: >On October 29, 2000 at 10:02:24, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On October 29, 2000 at 08:36:07, pete wrote: >> >>>On October 28, 2000 at 20:15:02, Uri Blass wrote: >>>>I do not believe that it is only low branching factor. >>>> >>>>Genius has other problems. >>>> >>>>1)It does less extensions than other programs and cannot extend more than 12 >>>>plies. >>>> >>>>It canot see lines of more than 32 plies. >>>> >>>>2)There are positions that it does not understand when other programs >>>>understand. >>>> >>>>Other programs worked many years about improving their evaluation when lang did >>>>not do it and it is natural that other programs got better evaluation function >>>>in part of the positions. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>>I tend to disagree , at least I suspect your point of view is very hard to prove >>>. >>> >>>It does sound very logical to assume years of work on evaluation has payed off >>>but it is very rare to see Genius judging positions in a ridiculous way . >> >>I expect you to see cases when Genius evaluates positions wrong if you do more >>games. >> >>I saw cases when Genius did not evaluate correctly king attack. >>It falled into a king attack against chess system tal many years ago because of >>wrong evaluation and I expect it also to fall into king attacks against >>gambittiger. >> >>It did not happen in the 3 games that you posted but it does not say that it is >>not going to happen. >> >>There are cases when Genius3's evaluation is superior relative to Gambit but I >>believe that there are also cases when it is the opposite. >> >>Uri > >Hello Uri, >I may be wrong but I think you cannot rely on Gambit's score for positions as >they are kind of artificial. Similiar in my opinion to MChess pro. Sometimes >the scores are elevated to force the attack when it is speculation. Only my >opinion though. >Jim You cannot trust also the scores of other programs because they are not speculative and sometimes can evaluate 0.00 without seeing that one side has a winning attack. Uri
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