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Subject: the problems are the anons or the unknown people - are they paid ??

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 12:07:29 10/31/00

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On October 30, 2000 at 19:00:36, leonid wrote:
>I don't know who is making that much money here but the place is more that
>useful. I received few times responses from the author of Rebel. I tried to find
>those responses for a while. In other occasions it was Bob Hyatt that helped me,
>and so like. Nobody did any money on me, I assure you. I gained a
>lot, this I know as fact.
>
>Leonid.

i have nothing against people like ed, bob, bruce, amir, and and and
posts here. we know who they are. we know ed is pro rebel, amir pro
junior, bruce pro ferret and bob pro crafty.

we can also find typical patterns for others. i do especially like programs
who play creative chess. therefore i am pro mchess, pro cstal, pro this and pro
that. i am using my own name here. so anybody knows: oh - thats typical for
thorsten, he is against fritz and pro gambit-tiger, cause he especially
likes the attacking style and of gambit-tiger, or the positional style
of shredder, or the  way ferret did it against fritz in paderborn, or the way
gandalf did it against tiger in paderborn, or or or or.

we can all find patterns to evaluate things.

but the problem is when somebody is only "Josef" and nobody here
knows : is he real ?!
and later josef says many things, can we be sure he is really josef ?!

i could e.g. do the following: i take an account with the name Mark smith.
then i do post a lot negative stuff about chess base.
to damage chessbases name here.
nobody knows if mark smith exists. and he damages chessbase.
if i would work for millennium-company, i could make an account as
uri avneri and post lots of negative stuff against chessbase, against rebel
and against cstal.
if i would be working for chessbase, i could daily log in into ccc and call my
anon e.g. Gerhard Sonntag and post a lot of negative stuff about shredder,
rebel, gambit-tiger, cstal...

i could very easy manipulate the tenor of this forum PRO or AGAINST
a product.

nobody could find out , or ?

if i have a bigger company, i could pay 1 or 2 guys to make PRO
posts for MY products and NEGATIVE posts against opponents products and
also negative posts against the supporters of opponent products.

Even Mr. Steven Schwartz could pay some people, and let them post here
under wrong name and make positive posts about products , he has to sell
because he has too much in stocks.

i mean: the manipulation possibilities are not limited.
and all because people post under wrong name.

IMO it should not be allowed to post under wrong name.
or strange names (KarinsDad) because nobody knows about these people.

in a group in reality, you normally ask somebody after a while, if he
is not introduced to you, hello: and who are you ? and maybe he tells you.
if not, you normally ask somebody else: who is this guy over there ?
but in internet ?

i don't like the possibilities to manipulate opinions.
IMO many threads here look as if some names are not real and could be
payed people to attack people.


i would like to talk freely with anybody, if he is in charge for what
he is doing. this makes it important to KNOW who he is.




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