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Subject: Re: LeTiger and Crafty on ICC - Sorry Bruce !

Author: Andreas Stabel

Date: 07:06:39 11/01/00

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On November 01, 2000 at 08:57:26, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On November 01, 2000 at 06:20:44, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On November 01, 2000 at 04:35:35, Andreas Stabel wrote:
>>
>>>On October 31, 2000 at 18:23:35, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 31, 2000 at 07:06:36, Andreas Stabel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On October 31, 2000 at 00:28:55, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On October 30, 2000 at 22:49:56, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On October 30, 2000 at 21:30:09, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I just went and checked to see what Crafty has been doing recently, and it has
>>>>>>>>been idle for 44 minutes.  It has played four games in the past eight hours.  It
>>>>>>>>has played seven games so far today and it played eight yesterday.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>It doesn't seem that you need to worry that much about people hogging it.  If
>>>>>>>>Crafty has been idle for 45 minutes, why not play against a Tiger?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>This is not real common.  And Murphy's law often strikes.  IE I logged on
>>>>>>>Friday and had two different complaints from humans that got interrupted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Just checked again and guess what?  Idle: 44
>>>>>>
>>>>>>bruce
>>>>>
>>>>>What's itching you. There are litterally tens of craftys you can play any
>>>>>time. There is scrappy which has the same hardware as crafty, you can
>>>>>download the source or an executable yourself. You have hundreds of other
>>>>>options, but still you go on and on like a five year old child wanting
>>>>>candy about playing exactly the one crafty which is reserved for strong
>>>>>human opponents.
>>>>>
>>>>>What is your real motivation for this nonsence ?
>>>>>
>>>>>Andreas Stabel
>>>>
>>>>I think you may have me confused with someone who doesn't like or respect Bob.
>>>>
>>>>bruce
>>>
>>>The reason for my post above is the bickering about beeing alowed to play
>>>one of the many craftys available, when even the source is free and people
>>>can set crafty up in any configuration they want and play it.
>>>
>>>A lot of this bickering is pretty vicious in the tone and completely
>>>unwarranted for the reasons statet above and from the reasons Mr. Hyatt has
>>>given, causing my perhaps too harsh statement above.
>>>
>>>But I have not got you confused, because the following line from the post
>>>above:
>>>--- >>>
>>>--- >>>Just checked again and guess what?  Idle: 44
>>>--- >>>
>>>--- >>>bruce
>>>shows that you are also part of the bickering, so my statement stands.
>>>
>>>Best regards
>>>Andreas Stabel
>>
>>Bruce is not part of the bickering.
>>
>>Bruce only responded to hyatt.
>>Bruce talked about facts and did not complain.
>>
>>Uri
>
>
>Bruce doesn't complain about this sort of stuff, he simply offers suggestions
>that may or may not be doable.  He already has my permission to play as many
>games as he wants.  As do a few others like John Stanback, Stefen Jakobs, and
>others working on non-commercial engines.  I have even set Crafty up so that it
>will kibitz analysis for selected opponents since I don't mind helping them
>improve their program by seeing what mine sees (I usually have faster hardware
>than most everybody except maybe for Ferret).

I see that I have done Bruce an injustice and I am very sorry. I reacted to
the bickering about crafty beeing idle and not allowing certain people to
play it and saw Bruce's post in this thread and he got my complaints.
I see now that this was completely wrong and I hope a can correct this
mistake a little bit by appologising here, so once again I'm sorry Bruce !


All I said about the bickering, which was wrongly directed at Bruce, I still
think is valid. It should have been directed at other people who I hope read
my post and understand that they was the target.

Best regards
Andreas Stabel



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