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Subject: Re: The overall performance of Gandalf 4.32 f is 2545 too low !

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 09:36:43 11/01/00

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On November 01, 2000 at 11:26:47, Peter Skinner wrote:

>>I think on a AMD K6-2 450 MHz is the rating from the SSDF OK, but with the next
>>games is the rating higher, I am sure. The AMD processor is not the best
>>processor for Gandalf 4.32f !
>>
>>Best
>>Frank
>
>Not only that, but in my testing, Gandalf 4.32e is much stronger than Gandalf
>4.32f.
>
>In 5 min games. Total games 85:
>
>Gandalf 4.32e: +56 =12 -17
>Gandalf 4.32f: =17 =12 -56
>
>In 15 min games. Total games 75:
>
>Gandalf 4.32e: +47 =13 -15
>Gandalf 4.32f: +15 =13 -47
>
>In 40 min games. Total games 50:
>
>Gandalf 4.32e: +26 =15 -9
>Gandalf 4.32f: +9 =15 -26
>
>In 40/40 games. Total games 60:
>
>Gandalf 4.32e: +43 =8 -9
>Gandalf 4.32f: +9 =8 -43
>
>Each series was started with a new book. Both programs on a PIII 500, 256 megs
>ram. 56 meg hash tables for both. Here is the performance of white/black via
>elo_stat:
>
>White Perf.  : 49.4 %
>Black Perf.  : 50.6 %
>
>Gandalf 4.32e was the strongest version, and should have been the commercially
>released version. Here is a set of games in the Fritz interface:
>
>These were 40/40 games: Total 150.
>
>Gandalf 4.32e: +87 =23 -40
>Fritz 6a: +40 =23 -87
>
>These were 40/40 games. Total games 150.
>
>Gandalf 4.32f: +53 =47 -50
>Fritz 6a: +50 =47 -53
>
>You can see the "e" version destroyed Fritz 6a, and actually was the strongest
>version over ICS play as well. My question is why wasn't it the commercial
>version?

Your results suggest that 4.32e is more than 100 elo better than 4.32f at all
time controls and even more than 200 elo better than 4.32e at 40/40.

They suggest that 4.32f is 125 elo better than Fritz6a.

If you are right then the only reason that I can find not to sell 4.32e is if
the programmer want to use it to win a correspondence championship but the first
thing to suspect is that something is wrong with your results(maybe Fritz has a
bug that tells it to play weaker only in eng-eng matches against Gandalf4.32e
and maybe the machine that you used for 4.32f had problems and 4.32f was slowed
by a significant factor)

Uri



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