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Subject: Re: 2nd take : appeal to programmers for Palm chess engines

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 13:02:21 11/01/00

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Your palm is probably also from 1990 then Christophe,
because for example the philips nino has 16mb RAM and a MIPS 75Mhz
processor with an incredible amount of registers: 32.

Most palmpc's have like 2mb anyway, obviously philips spoiled the
world a bit, however weirdly the philips nino didn't become a big
success probably they didn't earn enough at it.

Seems only products where dudes earn most on become a big success.

Most palms that are still in shop, have entire different processor
with way less RAM, like 2mb or 4mb up to 8mb is normal, and processor
is usual a slow 33Mhz one.

However that's completely different as the picture you write down below
Christophe.

I think even the single chips have more as 32kb RAM, even my old
calculator has more as 32kb RAM :)

On November 01, 2000 at 15:51:27, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On November 01, 2000 at 03:19:35, Martin Grabriel wrote:
>
>>I think more than half a year ago, I have appealed in this forum for programmers
>>among you to produce a Palm version of your program, commercial or otherwise.
>>This is my 2nd appeal.
>>
>>"Please..."
>>
>>I think Chess Genius 1.2 is very successful and is capable of expert strength,
>>enough to challenge mortals like us. Its save and load functions, although
>>primitive is extremely useful.
>>There are more than 60 free winboard engines floating around, can't just one
>>have a Palm version? Pocket Chess and ChromaGames (Chess) are the other 2 other
>>playable programs...but there is always room for more....
>
>
>
>The problem is that programmers are spoiled by the fast computers with a lot of
>RAM.
>
>The Palm has very limited resources, and most chess engines written after 1990
>will not fit in 32Kb.
>
>And let me laugh about the ones who believe they don't need to program endgame
>knowledge just because they use endgame tablebases. :)

Idem for middlegame, though some commercial books skip that entirely
nowadays.

Like Nimzo-ANT in dutch open ended after book in KRPPP versus KRPPP.

>Notice that ChessGenius for Palm is a port of a 1987 program: the Mephisto Roma.
>Even if a Winboard engine could be ported to the Palm, I guarantee that it has
>absolutely NO chance against Richard Lang's program on equal hardware.
>Especially the slow hardware of the Palm (68000 @16MHz).

Oh well Jeroen Noomen has a different opinion on that, besides a 68000 palm
with 32kb RAM and a motorola 68000 @ 16Mhz, WHEN did you buy that, 1990?

>    Christophe



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