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Subject: Re: Interesting position in the Comet-Junior CSCC game

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 07:20:24 01/03/98

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On January 03, 1998 at 03:34:28, Amir Ban wrote:

>On January 03, 1998 at 02:37:13, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>
>>On January 03, 1998 at 01:55:11, Amir Ban wrote:
>>
>>>Huh ? Your PV at ply 7 shows black a rook up, yet -2.87 down ? Looks
>>>like you evaluate the two passed pawns as worth almost a queen, unless I
>>>am missing something. Of course, you had to do that to solve WAC #2.
>>>It's quite correct in this position, and maybe the only way to handle
>>>it. This would be very risky if applied too generally. What is the
>>>formulation ?
>>
>>Bob is very speculative about passed pawn evaluation, but you don't need
>>to do this to solve Wac 2 in reasonable time.
>>
>>bruce
>
>Agreed, but WAC 2 is child's play compared to this Comet position, and
>Bob's heuristic really pays here. I'm impressed. I handle such positions
>with searching, and have to take some bad failures sometimes. I'm not
>the only one I'm sure.
>
>Amir

Just be aware that there are risks involved.  IE imagine that black has
a bishop rather than a rook, and that the bishop is on the diagonal to
prevent *either* pawn from advancing.  There are some cases that I don't
handle well, although they are not hard to fix either.  But I've seen
this
lose games as well, although I believe it wins more than it loses
because
of it...

Speculation is fun of course, but it is most effective against
*humans*...
*not* against computers, although some speculation works well against
computers as well.



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