Author: Don Dailey
Date: 15:08:55 01/03/98
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On January 02, 1998 at 18:10:21, Christophe Theron wrote: > >On January 02, 1998 at 17:35:29, Thorsten Czub wrote: > >>>It's my understanding that Genius has a full width base. >> >>I understand. But I don't understand WHY this is your believe ! >> >>I have always (for 10 years or more) believed in an asymmetric search. >>Strange that 2 persons can come to the opposite ideas... > >Thorsten, I believe Don is right, and the first plies are full width. > >This is not in contradiction with your feeling that the search is >asymetrical. But what you seem to underestimate is the fact that Genius >has a very good way of extending its search beyond the nominal full >width depth. And in this extended part I believe that you are right, it >is very asymetrical. > >This is enough to make you believe it is asymetrical from begining to >end, because generally the extended search is way deeper than the full >width search, and has a great influence on the choice of the first move. > >When 2 valuable people come to opposite ideas, maybe they should first >consider that nobody's wrong, instead of spending years in arguing. Hope >that you won't take this personal. The same for you, Don. > >(We are just exchanging ideas for fun here, and I'm always surprised to >see very bitter words in others threads. I'm not talking about the two >of you) > >And in reply to Don's post, I think that what he says about Genius is >maybe right. > >Now I have to say that my point is that the asymetrical search idea >seems interesting to me. I'm not interested anymore in fighting about >wether Genius uses it or not. > >So maybe now we could talk about what is good and what is bad in the >"AsySearch" idea, and how to implement it well. Because the way this >could be done is still unclear to me, although I can see potential >profit from using it (because of the safe lines it should be able to >produce). > > > Christophe Hi Christophe, I don't think we are arguing. (Now I'm arguing with you!) We are "actively discussing." I'm beginning to think Thorsten may be looking at it differently like you said and maybe we do not disagree at all (or maybe we do.) But disagree is good if one or both learn something. And I believe we both want this. I've already picked up good ideas from many people and have re-thought some of my own ideas and continue to do so. When I do disagree with someone I will definitely post it so that they (or I) can learn. If I discover someone cannot handle this I will stop disagreeing with them and let their posts go by. I am also interested in asymetrical search (and evaluation) ideas. I think it's likely to pay off if done right. I believe Richards ideas are quite sound and the reason his program is not at the very top is only that he's lost a lot of interest in it. -- Don
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