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Subject: Re: KK R+4P vs R+3P ending.

Author: Ricardo Gibert

Date: 02:51:16 11/03/00

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On November 03, 2000 at 04:33:10, Uri Blass wrote:

>On November 03, 2000 at 03:11:29, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>
>>On November 03, 2000 at 02:47:40, Sune Larsson wrote:
>>
>>>On November 02, 2000 at 20:08:57, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>>>
>>>>[D]8/1R3p2/4pkp1/7p/7P/5PP1/r7/6K1 w - - 10 46
>>>>
>>>>Why doesn't White play 46.f4 here?
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, the position after 46.f4 is claimed by Kramnik's seconds,
>>> Illescas and Lautier, to be a known book draw. See Henderson report
>>> at TWIC. Instead Kramnik chose 46.Kf1 (? according to Henderson),
>>> probably because he didn't know this book draw - or got some OTB doubts.
>>>
>>> Sune
>>
>>Thanks. I suspected that this might be a known draw, so I looked for it in a
>>couple endgame books, but came up empty. I was surprised that other annotators
>>did not write about it. Actually, the commentators for the Braingames webcam did
>>mention it, but cast it aside as bad, because it "allows" Black to infiltrate
>>White's position via the White squares. Naturally, I could not convince myself
>>that their claim was accurate, hence my post.
>>
>>I think after 46.f4, they could have agreed to a draw and shaken hands.
>
>I do not think that it is so simple and I expect black to try to play it after
>46.f4
>
>I did not anlayze the position but the fact that kramnik did not play it proves
>that it is not a simple draw(I am sure that he considered f4 because it is a
>natural move to consider).
>
>Uri

Why guess? Analyze it and show me the variation to confirm this. I'll help get
you started with 46.f4 Kf5 47.Rxf7+ Kg4 48.Rf6 Kxg3 49.Rxg6+ Kxh4 (49...Kh3
50.Rxe6 Ra1+ 51.Kf2 Kxh4 52.Re1=) 50.Rxe6 Kg3 51.Re1=; 48...Kh3 49.Rxg3 Rg2+
50.Kh1 Rxg3 (50...Re2 51.Kg1 and Black has nothing better than 51...Rg2+ again;
50...Ra2 51.Rxe6 Kxg3 52.Re1=) Rxe6 51.Rf3 Re1=. It is not necessary to analyze
this so much, but I'm trying to give you plenty to work with. BTW, I'm at work,
so this is all "blindfolded" without use of a set. Hopefully, no errors crept
in.



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