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Subject: Re: all time greats

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 20:04:42 11/03/00

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On November 03, 2000 at 20:59:47, Peter Skinner wrote:

>On November 03, 2000 at 19:46:32, walter irvin wrote:
>
>>On November 03, 2000 at 19:43:58, walter irvin wrote:
>>
>>>there may never be a way to know, but if there was a list of great chess
>>>programs by elo ratings .mainframes ,pc's all put together .what would be the
>>>top ten programs of all time .here is my list,not in any order.
>>>deeper blue
>>>deep junior
>>>cray blitz
>>>crafty 17.13 smp
>>>deep shredder
>>>gamit tiger
>>>fritz 7
>>>century 3
>>>hiarcs 7.32
>>i left out  the king cm8000 how could i for get the king??
>>>the single processor programs run on 1 gig athlon
>>>the deep pc's and crafty on 8 way box
>>>
>>>i think with that type of hardware the ave elo would be 2700+ if you include
>>>deeper blue who's elo was over 2800
>
>When I think of all-time great programs, I think of the ones that got us to
>where we are today. Not today's programs.
>
>For one to be considered an all-time great in football or baseball, they are
>considered past their prime, and no way to competeing in today's game.
>
>Do you really think that Walter Payton could sustain the type hits given out by
>today's football players? Not i think not.. just roll out the stretcher..
>
>When I think of the all-time great programs, I think of DeepBlue, DeepThought,
>Cray-Blitz, Sargon, GNUChess, MChess, Genius, and the list goes on.
>
>Todays programs have only proven that they are better than the others due to
>hardware, and the programming knowledge learned from the earlier programs.
>
>Boxing would have been no where if it were not for the likes of Ali, Foreman,
>Chavez, and Fraizer.
>
>Don't you agree?



By your definition I would say that Richard Lang's programs between 1985 and
1992 are the all time greats.

They are still an incredible challenge to many amateur programs.



    Christophe



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