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Subject: Re: all time greats

Author: Enrique Irazoqui

Date: 05:46:35 11/04/00

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On November 04, 2000 at 06:16:05, Uri Blass wrote:

>On November 04, 2000 at 06:10:16, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>
>>On November 04, 2000 at 03:51:21, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On November 04, 2000 at 00:47:04, Andrew Dados wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 04, 2000 at 00:00:04, Peter Skinner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>By your definition I would say that Richard Lang's programs between 1985 and
>>>>>>1992 are the all time greats.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>They are still an incredible challenge to many amateur programs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Christophe
>>>>>
>>>>>I totally agree. We have benefacted from the experience of earlier acheivements,
>>>>>just as the rest of the world has.
>>>>>
>>>>>To say that today's programs are the best of all-time, is a slap in the face of
>>>>>the older generation of programs. Nothing has been proved. Today's standard are
>>>>>so much higher than they were back then. There is really no comparison.
>>>>
>>>>Most important thing is processor speed / memory sizes programs were
>>>>written/debugged and intended to run. For me all time greatest is definitely
>>>>Genius. Get a 486/33Mhz and try it against any of todays top programs. I put my
>>>>money on Genius...
>>>>
>>>>-Andrew-
>>>
>>>I suggest that you try 4 minutes/40 moves on fast hardware that is eqvivalent to
>>>120 minutes/40 moves on 486/33Mhz.
>>>
>>>I guess that Genius is going to lose against Gambittiger or Fritz6a.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>I tried it 2 or 3 years ago on equal hardware and Genius lost to the top
>>programs of these times quite badly. I think that Genius was also one of the
>>secret machines tested by the SSDF and came out over 100 Elo points under the
>>top.
>>
>>Enrique
>
>Which Genius did you use?
>
>I suspect that Genius3 is better than other versions at blitz but I do not know.
>I bought Genius3 because it beated kasparov at 25 minutes per game.
>
>I did not buy later versions because they had no good results to convince me to
>buy them.
>
>Uri

I don't remember which version of Genius I used. It might have been G3, 4 or 5,
but in my opinion all three are variations on the same theme, I mean with little
differences among them and quite insignificant.

Enrique



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