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Subject: Re: Nimzo7.32 still benefit more than Fritz 6a when the speed double !

Author: Jorge Pichard

Date: 13:31:43 11/04/00

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On November 04, 2000 at 13:48:29, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>On November 04, 2000 at 12:30:41, Christopher A. Morgan wrote:
>
>>
>>	According to the latest SSDF rating list, 10/27/00, the number 16 and 17
>>programs had an average rating of 2475 (16.  Fritz 5.32  64MB P200 MMX  2476,
>>and 17.  Hiarcs 7.32  64MB P200 MMX  2473).   When we go up a generation in
>>microprocessor, double the size of the hash table, double + the speed, then the
>>same two programs now have an average rating of 2541, an increase of 66 points
>>(5. Fritz 5.32  128MB K6-2 450 MHz  2552 , and  9. Hiarcs 7.32  128MB K6-2 450
>>MHz  2530).
>>
>>	The number 1 and 2 programs had an average rating of 2611 (1.  Fritz 6.0  128MB
>>K6-2 450 MHz  2630, and 2. Junior 6.0  128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2592)
>>
>>	If we once again go up a generation in microprocessor to Pent III, or AMD
>>Athlon, double the size of the hash table to 256MB, and double + the speed to
>>1,000 MHz, should we expect an increase in average rating or around 66 points to
>>2677 or thereabouts?
>
>The increase in rating point doesn't remain 66 Points when you double the speed
>of the Microprocessor or double the memory size. I just finished playing a small
>match of 50 games at G/60 with Fritz 6a using an AMD K6-II 500 Mhz with 128
>SDRAM vs my other AMD Athlon 800 Mhz with 256 SDRAM and to my surprise the
>Athlon only scored 27.5 out of 50 games. This does not even reflect >40 rating
>points increase. But certain programs benefit more than other such as Nimzo
>7.32, I am in the middle of my next match of 50 games where the Athlon 800
>MHz is scoring 20 games out of 32 so far and 18 more games to play.

I am almost 95% sure that the new  Nimzo 8 will have a higher SSDF rating
than Fritz 6, as long as it is rated using 800 MHz computers.

>Pichard.
>
>>	My more basic question is have we reached the point in computer chess
>>programming where the programs can play at the super elite level, 2700+, if they
>>can run fast enough or have multi processors re Deep Junior with 4 processors
>>which appears to now play at the super elite level.  Can more be done with
>>programming?  Obviously, re Deep Blue we can use brute force and play at or near
>>world champion level.  I am not asking about that level of hardware.
>>
>>Thanks!



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