Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 18:01:27 11/04/00
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On November 04, 2000 at 08:46:35, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>On November 04, 2000 at 06:16:05, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On November 04, 2000 at 06:10:16, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:
>>
>>>On November 04, 2000 at 03:51:21, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 04, 2000 at 00:47:04, Andrew Dados wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 04, 2000 at 00:00:04, Peter Skinner wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>By your definition I would say that Richard Lang's programs between 1985 and
>>>>>>>1992 are the all time greats.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>They are still an incredible challenge to many amateur programs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Christophe
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I totally agree. We have benefacted from the experience of earlier acheivements,
>>>>>>just as the rest of the world has.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>To say that today's programs are the best of all-time, is a slap in the face of
>>>>>>the older generation of programs. Nothing has been proved. Today's standard are
>>>>>>so much higher than they were back then. There is really no comparison.
>>>>>
>>>>>Most important thing is processor speed / memory sizes programs were
>>>>>written/debugged and intended to run. For me all time greatest is definitely
>>>>>Genius. Get a 486/33Mhz and try it against any of todays top programs. I put my
>>>>>money on Genius...
>>>>>
>>>>>-Andrew-
>>>>
>>>>I suggest that you try 4 minutes/40 moves on fast hardware that is eqvivalent to
>>>>120 minutes/40 moves on 486/33Mhz.
>>>>
>>>>I guess that Genius is going to lose against Gambittiger or Fritz6a.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>I tried it 2 or 3 years ago on equal hardware and Genius lost to the top
>>>programs of these times quite badly. I think that Genius was also one of the
>>>secret machines tested by the SSDF and came out over 100 Elo points under the
>>>top.
>>>
>>>Enrique
>>
>>Which Genius did you use?
>>
>>I suspect that Genius3 is better than other versions at blitz but I do not know.
>>I bought Genius3 because it beated kasparov at 25 minutes per game.
>>
>>I did not buy later versions because they had no good results to convince me to
>>buy them.
>>
>>Uri
>
>I don't remember which version of Genius I used. It might have been G3, 4 or 5,
>but in my opinion all three are variations on the same theme, I mean with little
>differences among them and quite insignificant.
>
>Enrique
I agree. I don't know which is better. It's maybe Genius5, maybe Genius3. But
anyway if there is a difference in playing strength, it is insignificant.
Christophe
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