Author: pavel
Date: 10:32:13 11/05/00
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On November 05, 2000 at 13:18:03, Thorsten Czub wrote: >On November 05, 2000 at 12:40:17, pavel wrote: >>1.Rhg1 Nf6 2.h3 Bxh3 3.Kb1 Nbd7 4.Bh6 Nh5 5.Qc2 Ndf6 >> ² (0.51) Depth: 9/29 00:07:55 14671kN >> >>(mahamood, MyTown 06.11.2000) >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >gandalf4.32f says: > >depth 11 1/41 +0.35 Rhg1 Nf6 Bh6 ... > >>I think there is always one "best" (or good) moves that one program finds (or >>sees) that others dont. Doesnt make "that one" better or "untouchables" than >>others. > >of course. but i do not only present ONE position and thats all. >The beta-testers of gambit-tiger came with lots of data, games, >matches, examples. > >if gambit-tiger would only "solve" this position, >without all other results, i would say: pah - ONE position. > >but this is not my idea, not my point. > >Gandalf, CSTal, Gambit-Tiger, maybe others too, are on the right way. right way? tunning evaluations? all (top) program has reached a point that you can't do much improvement on the program; other than doing fancy tunning in eval codes, better PC (speed), learning. these are (AFAIK) the only ways to make your program better at this stage of "chess programing". (this is my assumption, but i believe in it) > >that was my point. > > >>I think "gambit tiger" is exceptional, but let's not exaggerate it :) > >i do not do this. i differenciate and i gave you another position >to differenciate. you remember Rc6 ? I am sorry, i didnt follow the GT thread or "paradigm" thread, those didnt 'interest' me. now I am interested... :) can you pls post the position again (with pvs) > > >>even christophe "HIMSELF" admited it's "just the tunning of evaluation fnction" > >even christophe himself (great!) said that it is a beginning. >gambit-tiger has version number 1.0, older chess-tiger has version number 13. so truely there is no "paradigm", it's simply eval. tuning (as to now). what will happen "later" shouldnt be the topic of our discussion. We can discuss that "later"... > > >>but he also said "it's just the beginning". > >exactly. Exactly!! I am sure he is a fine programer and he can do more than just tunning eval codes. :) > > >>so its clear that he has better, bigger plans. >> >>hang loose, >>kick back, >>relax >> >>Pavs ;) > > >i am completely relaxed. >but i see that my friend would not have list this email-chess game >if he would have had gambit-tiger. or cstal2.03, or gandalf4.32f or xtreme7.32(beta) or shredder4....... > >now gandalf4.32f says > >depth 12 1/41 +0.27 Rhg1 Nf6 Bg5 h5 Bh6 b4 Bxg7 Kxg7 h3 bxc3 ... gandalf is 'neat' , but I just dont like it :( regards, Pavs ;)
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