Author: Chris Taylor
Date: 11:25:31 11/05/00
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On November 05, 2000 at 14:11:41, Uri Blass wrote: >On November 05, 2000 at 13:35:46, Chris Taylor wrote: > >>On November 05, 2000 at 11:27:43, Christophe Theron wrote: >> >>>On November 05, 2000 at 00:27:18, Michael Cummings wrote: >>> >>>>On November 05, 2000 at 00:15:50, Uri Blass wrote: >>>> >>>>>On November 04, 2000 at 23:40:09, Michael Cummings wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On November 04, 2000 at 22:28:10, Uri Blass wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On November 04, 2000 at 19:35:26, Michael Cummings wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>We all know why, Chessmaster, Rebel, Shredder and the like are not on the list, >>>>>>>>and I can understand that. But without them the list means very little to me >>>>>>>>these days. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>It is clear that shredder4 is number 4 in the list. >>>>>>>When you download the list in dos format you can see that there is no program >>>>>>>that is number 4 so it is clear that it is shredder4. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Uri >>>>>> >>>>>>hmmm, very clear to everyone except me, if shredder 4 is number 4, then why >>>>>>ain't it listed. See right now I have no idea if you are telling the truth or >>>>>>being sacastic in response to what I write. If it is the truth, then its the >>>>>>first I have ever heard of that. >>>>> >>>>>You can see the results in >>>>>http://home3.swipnet.se/~w-36794/ssdf/rlwww004.txt >>>>> >>>>>1)You can see that program number 4 is missing. >>>>> >>>>>2)After the list of the programs there is a list of the results. >>>>>You can see that Fritz6 beated program 204 26-14 if you go down to look at the >>>>>list of the results. >>>>>There is no other program that Fritz6 beated 26-14 >>>>> >>>>>3)If you download the public ssdf games you can also see that Fritz6 won >>>>>Shredder4 26-14 >>>>> >>>>>4)204 is not in the list but other programs like 205 are in the list(205 is >>>>>number 15 in the list) >>>>> >>>>>I learned from this facts that 204 is shredder4. >>>>>The ssdf tries to hide shredder4 but if you are smart enough you have no problem >>>>>to find it. >>>>> >>>>>I cannot find the rating of shredder4(maybe I am not smart enough) but I have no >>>>>problem to find that it is number 4. >>>>> >>>>>Uri >>>> >>>>Ah I see, but I only ever look at the list published, never any of the fine >>>>details. It is stupid that it is not listed, I should not have to go looking as >>>>you explained to find proper details. They should just list the damn thing. >>>> >>>>Thanks for the info Uri >>> >>> >>> >>>Ossi Weiner, Millennium's director, threatened the SSDF to sue them if they >>>published the results of Shredder 4. >>> >>>It is indeed stupid, but it's Weiner's fault, not the SSDF's. >>> >>> >>> >>> Christophe >> >>I have an Athlon 700 and a Duron 700. >>Slightly better hardware than the SSDF. My question is,, would Mr. Weiner sue >>me if I played Shredder 4, or 5 And published the games here? Or sent them to >>SSDF. >> >>Because I am in the process of playing a large 40/40 on the two mentioned >>machines. >> >> >>Chris Taylor > >No > >There is no contract that forbid you to publish shredder4's games so there is >nothing to worry about. > >The ssdf does not publish most of their games and they have a lot of results >without games. >If you publish all of your games you do better job than the ssdf because we can >check for errors in your games when it is impossible to find errors in the ssdf >games that are not public. > >There are errors in the public games(I found for example that Junior5 was slowed >down by a significant factor in one match and the tester had to repeat the >games) > >I am sure that there are errors in the not public games but nobody can find them >for obvious reasons. > >Uri I will publish all the games played. I do not have the time to go through all the moves. And knowing how the autoplayer can sometimes throw up some wierd things. And you are a better chess player than I am Uri. After all Computers are only human too. Chris
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