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Subject: Re: LeTiger and Crafty on ICC for Mr. Hyatt and Andreas

Author: David Beauregard

Date: 11:48:23 11/06/00

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On November 05, 2000 at 09:51:57, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On November 05, 2000 at 00:52:34, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>On November 03, 2000 at 10:39:36, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On November 03, 2000 at 00:18:40, David Beauregard wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 02, 2000 at 22:28:50, pavel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 02, 2000 at 15:07:48, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On November 02, 2000 at 05:07:36, Jerry wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Why waste your time with crafty or scrappy???
>>>>>>>Singacrafty is the same program and will play ALL other programs...
>>>>>>>You can see craftys true rating there, not the over rated rank achieved by
>>>>>>>noplaying those with better programs...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Good Luck on ICC...LeTiger is a tough opponent
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You say I noplay those with better programs.  I challenge you to prove
>>>>>>that statement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     attakinski  cmslim        criollo   dini    egghead  FireViper
>>>>>>     GODMODE     gzk           inmortal  Kurios  Mr-Matt  Pietari
>>>>>>     BarkingCow  comp          CUP98     EA6PZ   eivissa  Gatling
>>>>>>     Good-Boy    HangerOn      Jack-Daniels      Masterchess  muhaha
>>>>>>     twixer      brut          ComputerMan       Dementia  Eatman  ET2000
>>>>>>     Ghostn      Gregorio      HUGES     jason-1 MasterMarc   Mungo
>>>>>>     Wild5Crafy  CARobot       CraftyCrafty      DesX      Ebbi    Eza
>>>>>>     GmSuperSoffer  grouchy   ibrax     JJcool        MateGoD      MysticWarrior
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That is the _total_ noplay list for crafty at the present moment.  You can
>>>>>>verify this with an ICC admin if you want.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Now exactly which "top programs" have I noplayed?  Most of those are computer
>>>>>>cheaters and crafty users.  Only a very few are there for violating my finger
>>>>>>notes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>your turn.  Maybe to offer facts rather than incorrect speculation?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>where is 'letiger' in your list?
>>>>>
>>>>>Pavel
>>>>
>>>>Bob, how about the following list of top programs you have no played including
>>>>LeTiger who is still censored and noplayed.  The following are top programs you
>>>>have no played for what reason I do not know but here they are Mr. Hyatt.
>>>>
>>>>LeTiger, Good-Boy, CARobot, Gregorio, EA6PZ, Egghead, mystic warrior.  These
>>>>programs are top programs and can win and would win their fair share against
>>>>Crafty if you would not hide behind your noplay and censor rules.
>>>>
>>>>LeTiger
>>>
>>>
>>>OK...  feel free to do what you want.  That attitude does not earn my
>>>admiration.  I don't "hide behind" anything.  I simply choose to noplay
>>>folks that think they don't have to follow my rules.
>>>
>>>If you don't like my policies, all I can say is "tough".  If you want to
>>>say I hide behind my policies, fine.  But don't come up with this nonsense
>>>of hiding behind my noplay and censor list.  I now remember why I censored
>>>you in the first place.  Hint:  it has to do with "attitude".  I don't feel
>>>obligated to put up with nonsense.
>>>
>>>You have been un-noplayed for days.  However, I don't care whether we play
>>>again or not.  There are _plenty_ of tiger operators on ICC that are a bit
>>>less arrogant, and a lot more polite.  I'll stick with them.
>>
>>What did he do?
>>
>>I know that I have had some trouble with operators and put them on my noplay
>>list, but I can't remember why, in most cases.  In a few cases I actually took
>>notes, but now I can't find the notes.
>>
>>I've been running on Otter recently and I don't think that has much of a noplay
>>list at all, so it has been playing some of the guys who are on your noplay
>>list.
>>
>>So far, no problems.
>>
>>I don't know why you need to worry about these guys.  If you want to get the
>>games, but don't want the attitude, you can add something to your interface that
>>deletes tells from them, as well as draw requests, requests for aborts,
>>adjournments, kibitzes, and takebacks.  That lets you censor them while still
>>allowing them to play.  At that point they become perfect opponents.
>
>The problem is that I don't want a huge number of games vs one single
>program, which is where the 4 game limit came from.  Prior to automatic
>interfaces for commercial programs, it was rare to play 4 games in a row,
>but once automatic interfaces were developed, it became common.  He was
>noplayed by my interface for playing well over 4 games in a row.  Usually
>when this happens, the operator will say "sorry, I missed your notes, it
>won't happen again" and I remove them.  In this case, I simply received more
>abuse about "hiding" which hardly encourages me to remove anything at all.
>
>
>
>
>>
>>You have a whole bunch of people who want to fight with you simultaneously.  I
>>would find it hard to manage this many fights, personally.  At some point it has
>>to become impossible to manage.
>>
>>bruce
>
>
>There is little to manage.  Other than the occasional complaint here.

Bob, I thought we had buried this issue.  The problem came in that I did not
play you four games in a row but that bounty hunter and other tigers, which I
did not finger on, had already played the four games.  I was the fifth game.
Since going thru everybodies finger notes is a little tedious to see if they are
playing tigers and now a lot of operators are playing multiple engines.
I hope this puts to rest once and for all this issue and that LeTiger and Crafty
can play once in a while.  Thanks.   David Beauregard



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