Author: Wieland Belka
Date: 03:56:01 11/07/00
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On November 05, 2000 at 09:42:40, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On November 05, 2000 at 06:09:28, Wieland Belka wrote: > >>On November 04, 2000 at 23:58:39, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On November 04, 2000 at 12:59:23, Wieland Belka wrote: >>> >>>>Posted by Robert Hyatt on November 03, 2000 at 20:53:12: >>>> >>>>In Reply to: Re: Crafty 17.13 - using game archives by engines? posted by >>>>Wieland Belka on November 03, 2000 at 18:19:53: >>>>On November 03, 2000 at 18:19:53, Wieland Belka wrote: >On November 02, 2000 at >>>>14:25:48, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>>On November 02, 2000 at 13:22:08, Wieland Belka wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Hello Crafty friends, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>using opening books it's a great part of Crafty's strong playing, well. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>1. How could I complete Crafty's book with specific opening stuff? >>>>>>>>2. Can Crafty profit from any game archives? If yes, on which way? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Can anybody help? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Thanks Wieland >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>This is not hard to do... you can use _any_ collection of PGN games >>>>>>>you want, in order to build an opening book that covers the specific >>>>>>>openings you want to play against. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>We already have 2M game collections available. My ftp machine is full >>>>>>>of pgn files... The problem is "quality". not "quantity". The pgn has >>>>>>>typos, games by patzers, horrible blunders, openings that have been busted, >>>>>>>and so forth. Learning will help, but it definitely takes time. >>>>>> >>>>>>Bob, thanks for reply! >>>>>> >>>>>>You are right, of course, because of the quality of collections of PGN games. >>>>>>But I meant: If I had a little, but good collection to a specific rare opening, >>>>>>on which way could I *complete* Crafty's original book? >>>> >>>>>The way to do this is to take the original PGN, and then _add_ to it with the stuff you want to >use. In fact, the books.bin file is made to add to in this fashion, leaving book.bin to be a >large "backup" for when books.bin is >>>>>no longer useful. >>>> >>>>What do you mean with _add_? A command? Unknown by your command list v. 17.XX! >>>> >>>> >>> >>>There is no "add command". You have to have the original PGN file used to >>>create the book, then to this file you "add" the new pgn you want included. >>>You do this with any editor of your choice. >>> >>> >>>>>> >>>>>>And my second ask: Is it the right way to produce own openings books with *your* >>>>>>collections of PGN games on your ftp server? The way for that is clear, but is >>>>>>it well? Or is your Crafty opening book already the best solution? >>>>>> >>>>>>regards Wieland >>>> >>>>>What I do now is _not_ optimal. It needs a lot more work, which will happen >>>>>over the next year or two. I don't believe in hand-crafted books, as they >>>>>require too much human labor. But they are difficult to beat, without a _lot_ >>>>>of work... >>>> >>>>Bob, I'm a new fan of your Crafty! But the only thing I have is your command >>>>list v. 17.XX!! >>>>What are you telling me?! Is it possible to complete your opening book >>>>"book.bin" with own serious PGN game collections? >>>> >>>>regards Wieland >>> >>>yes. building the book simply sucks in a big pgn file. You can put _anything_ >>>into that file that you think is appropriate. >> >> >>Bob, please, sorry, but we are turning in a cycle again! ;-) >> >>I only wanted to say: The way to create an own opening book is clear. But I >>asked after a solution (Crafty commands!) to *complete* Crafty's book! Your >>command list v. 17.XX is not telling about it! >>By the way: I do not know exactly meaning of "book.bin" here and "books.bin" on >>the other side. > > >There is no command to "complete" crafty's book. You can only create a >book from raw PGN. Not add to it. Before you create the book, you can >put _anything_ in the pgn file. Then after you create the book from this >pgn file, you will have a book with the moves you want included. > Okay, now I understood. I can not complete your existing Crafty's opening books directly. And the other way: Is it possible to create a PGN file from your "book.bin" to complete with my stuff and create a new Crafty book.bin? > >> >>Please, have a look at my new from 11/04/2000: "Crafty in email correspondence >>chess tournaments"! I need a solution because I'm already playing!! Bob, no answer??
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