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Subject: Re: Is shredder 5 the strongest program available?

Author: walter irvin

Date: 05:22:07 11/07/00

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On November 07, 2000 at 05:27:39, Stefan Meyer-Kahlen wrote:

>On November 07, 2000 at 03:34:11, Marcus Kaestner wrote:
>
>>On November 07, 2000 at 00:43:01, Harald Faber wrote:
>>
>>>On November 06, 2000 at 17:01:38, john rice wrote:
>>>
>>>>This is the word i'm getting from icd info (+100elo over fritz6a). What do you
>>>>think?
>>>>Thanks in advance
>>>
>>>It might be stronger than Fritz6a, but certainly not 100 or more pts. But it is
>>>not the stronghest program available IMO, Tiger and Century are at least equal.
>>>(and much cheaper :-))
>>
>>he is strong, but far away to be the strongest. gambit tiger scores nearly 60%
>>against that shredder.
>>
>>marcus
>
>OK, I guess I have to make a FAQ for it:
>
>The last Shredder version Marcus Kästner got was Shredder 4.16 from June, but
>even this version is no longer running legally since about August because of a
>time bomb.
>
>So Marcus Kästner could have tested this version against other programs of that
>time. If I understood Christophe right there was no Gambit Tiger available at
>this time.
>
>Gambit Tiger and the new Rebel are problably very strong and I would like to see
>results of Shredder against this programs, but unforunately this is not yet
>possible for me or somebody else.
>
>If Tiger and/or Rebel are stronger that Shredder5 I certainly wouldn't be very
>happy but I could live with that, but right now there is nobody who can give us
>any hint concerning this.
>
>I don't thing that Tiger and/or Rebel need faked test results to proof their
>strength.
>
>Stefan (author of Shredder)

no chess collection could possibly be complete without shredder.myself i plan on
getting both rebel and shredder .but i still wonder what your secret is ,what do
you know that keeps you winning championship after championship .are you just
better prepared vs other programs or is shredder that much stronger .if shredder
is that much stronger then it must be over 200 elo stronger or more to factor
out the chance factor .to me the chance factor is that the strongest program on
any given day may not win .but if one program is strong enough then luck is no
longer a factor .i mean if deep blue played compu-wimp  there is 100% chance
deep blue will win.so far it has been total domination by shredder and i wonder
why the other programmers cant over come shredder .



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