Author: Sandro Necchi
Date: 10:01:03 11/07/00
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On November 07, 2000 at 11:30:23, Marcus Kaestner wrote: >>>the answer is very simple. he is not stronger playing many games. but he has the >>>more successful style to win a short tournament. >> >>I have been studying all available chess programs since 22 years and I do not >>agree with you. > >me also. so we have different opinions. so what is your explanation? >the reason is, that shredder is 200 elo better? I never said this. I do not say my opinion because I am too involved and people would complain no matter what I say. I can only tell you sincerely what my indipendent tester (which tell me only what they believe on, no matter if I like it or not. This is what I am expecting from them.) told me. They believe that the latest version is 100 points stronger than Fritz 6a. I do not add anything and I do not make any comments a part from reporting it. I can only specify that this statement was made on the chess engine and not considering the book. Just to let you know that I am not trying to keep merits on this. Of course, you are free to believe it or not. >that´s the reason why he is successful in tournaments? >or luck? did shredder have always luck? No, the luck cannot be always on one side. Everybody knows this so there must be other reasons. I won't tell you. Why don't we let the people that will buy the new program tell us in this forum? The program has "some features" that make it more likely to score very well in tournaments not loosing games and winning the one it can win... I believe this is not easy and I must congratulate may-self with Stefan for this. In fact I was quite impressed for these features. > >>> >>>he is able to draw lost positions and scores 100% against weaker opponents. >>>that´s the key. >> >>Also the best human chess players do the same!! > >and thats the reason why they win tournaments. so where is our disagreement? No here there is no disagreement. > >>> >>>others like fritz or tiger are not coming into lost positions, but give away >>>half points against "weak" opponents. >> >>I do not agree. If Fritz 6 is no. 1 in the SSDF list it is mainly because it is >>scoring so well against weaker opponents. > >ahhh! >and that is also the reason why fritz is missing every tournament victory >because his draw-rate is so very high. Well in a few games tournament one more draw can be important in one way or another, but strong programs should be able to win the won games. Don't you think so? > >that does not fit. > >>> >>>as normal version he is on the long run slightly better than gambit tiger , but >>>was hardly able to win a tournament. >> >>Tiger is a very strong program, but I don't know the new version, so I do not >>say anything about it. Why don't you do the same with Shredder 5.0 which YOU DO >>NOT (I REPEAT) DO NOT KNOW? > >hahaha, very funny. what do you know what i know and what not? I know what I know and what I don't know. What about you? >are you sleeping under my bed? No, sorry but I like only nice looking womens. (I am old fashion Italian...) > >>> >>>in the gambit version, with a more deadly style, he has immediately won two >>>tournaments out of two, even he is not equal strong to the normal version. >> >>This is only an opinion. Your opinion. > >no, sir. this is not only my opinion. Maybe someothers opinions too, but what is important are facts and not opinions. Do you agree? > >>> >>>understand? >> >>I hope you finally understand. >>It looks to me that you are upset with Stefan and that's the only reason why you >>speak so. > >huh? what have i done? >i gave the explanation why shredder is so successful in tournaments. >what did i say against shredder? > >do you mean i should say: "shredder is successful intournaments because he is >200-300 elo above the rest!" do you really want me to publish such a nonsense? No of course. I respect your opinion like everybody's opinion, but if I do not agree I simply say it. From my point of view I am willing to shake your hands if we meet each other. No problems on my side to tell what my opinion is. That's all. > >marcus Sandro
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