Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 15:13:15 01/05/98
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>And as the basic engine should have remained the same - I see no >problems to >transport this expectation towards the actual play of Cm 5.000 / 5.500. >And, to repeat it stubbornly : >the setup, that suits the basical engine qualities the best ( for me ) >is : >SPASSKY. > >ElvisPCD@aol.com >elvispcd@owl-online.de Hello Detlef, I am open for anything. I will - because I have time en masse - play some 60/60 games in this seetings with cm5000 vs. whatever new program (Mchess7/Nimzo98/Fritz5) and look what we can make it. You are right. I remember Mr.Pilz from old times and his setting was designed for CM4000 and is a few years old. So my comment was made without ANY data concerning how it affects CM5000. But that should not be the problem, I will produce some data. How about you, can we maybe collect the data and if we have enough (10-20 or even more games, post the whole PGN-file here and discuss the games ? If so - maybe we could try the same openings with DEFAULT or SPASSKI -style too ? I have never loaded the Spasski style for CM. How does it affect the style ? I mean, not quantitive, but from your point of view, how do the games change from playing style ? I still believe PLAYING style is more than playing strength. Last time my friend Bernd Kohlweyer again visited me. He has ELO 2420 and always we reproduce the same trauma: I have increased my machine power, have latest state of the art programs from which other people tell (e.g. Mchess against IM soandso 9.5-0.5): THIS PROGRAM WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE :-) and than Bernd plays and wins. And We play another game, and he wins too. And than I change from Mchess7 to Nimzo and the same thing happens. And Bernd smiles and I remember that we have done THIS PROCEDURE since I have PC's and before with all my dedicated machines, but he wins against them. So - I still think that HIS WAY of playing (he plays a little like Petrosian, very manoeuvering, no risky things, always anything under control and cool positionally) - as we call it in german: Schieber-Schach (oder er schiebt schematisch den Compu zusammen) is poison for almost any program. I have seen stronger players having more problems against the same machines or software, therefore I guess the reason is not PLAYING STRENGTH but playing style. I really do not know how this other IM has lost with only 1/2 points out of 10. Hm. Style is important and styling a program looks very important too. I think playing style in human chess is underestimated. They all look in the ratings and believe the NUMBERS are absolute. I cannot see this. Psychologic effects that are reasoned out of playing-style stuff are very important to me. Till later...
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