Author: Bruce Moreland
Date: 17:55:05 11/07/00
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On November 07, 2000 at 19:54:31, Thorsten Czub wrote: >how much is it worth ?! >one bean ? 2 beans ? >shall we count them ? >who knows ?! I think the point is that when you talk about these games, sometimes you are a bean counter yourself, you just get excited about different numbers. The thread you started was not just about Gambit Tiger, it was about numbers returned by various eval functions. Those are beans. 3.22 beans is not much different than 0.46 beans, if that's as far as you go with it. I think it's pretty clear that white has an advantage in that game. There is the question of whether or not it can be achieved, recognized, and converted. You could probably condition a pigeon to peck the "+3" button if there is an open file leading into someone's king position, and there is a rook on it. Christophe is obviously doing something more sophisticated than that, but your analysis is not sophisticated. You are talking about +3 versus -0.2, and 1-0. I expect more from you, since you are something of an anti-empiricist. http://www.icdchess.com/forums/1/message.shtml?136805 I asked you in that post if you could provide lines for other depths than those where the correct move is selected. What else did Tiger think of this? Did it like the position from ply 1, and if so, what did it want to play? What did it want to play in the ply where it apparently switched away from the right move? In positions where black has solid defensive resources, does it still say +3 sometimes? I got some games with Gambit Tiger last night. It is very strong, and the interesting thing about it is that it seems to be strong in endings, too. bruce
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