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Subject: Re: Is shredder 5 the strongest program available?

Author: Sandro Necchi

Date: 01:04:30 11/08/00

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On November 07, 2000 at 19:22:10, Marcus Kaestner wrote:

>hi again,
>
>>>don´t care about that. i´m also involved. but that does not prevent me from
>>>saying what i think and what i know.
>>
>>I agree with you.
>
>good!

The only difference is that I believe it is very IMPORTANT how to say things. I
mean that the same thing said in a different way may gets a different reply.
>
>>>>Of course, you are free to believe it or not.
>>>
>>>didn´t you realize that a made the same statement about a month ago?
>>>at that time people named me a dreamer and a liar and i´m not able to know, and
>>>so on....
>>
>>Yes, I know and I did not made any comment on your comments.
>
>of course i believe in your results.
>i have not a single reason not to believe.

Good.
>
>>>
>>>the same as these days.
>>>
>>>i was right at that time, and i´m right these days.
>>
>>I hope you are not right when you say that Chess Tiger is strong, but if it
>>happens we can only start thinking how we can do better.
>
>that is the very exciting competition these days...

Yes.
>
>>Well, I think that the new Shredder 5.0, running on a 1 GHz Athlon Thunderbird,
>>like my computers, should be 2700 Elo points strong against human players at
>>tournament time controls. I think this is a real achivement.
>>Do you agree?
>
>i have no clear idea in this area.
>2700 sounds VERY high for my ears. on the other hand: junior, fritz and
>p.conners have proven to score in this region. so at the end i should throw away
>my scepsis and agree to you.

Well, this is my and my cooperators' impression, because there are no enough
data to say that this is sure 100%
>
>>>
>>>yes, the new shredder was and is about 100 elo stronger than the last generation
>>>of chess-engines. here we are in full agreement. but shredder is not stronger
>>>than the new generation of chess engines. the others (especially christophe
>>>theron) have made the same jump and some even a higher one.

Well, we'll see.
>>
>>Well, I hope you are wrong in this case, but I have no data to tell my opinion
>>about this.
>
>don´t care too much about that. i think the top 3 are very close. even if
>shredder has problems with gambit tiger, he will score better against another
>opponent.
>
>>>hahahaha, then you should IMMEDIATELY swap to the chessbits site and download
>>>the video of the most beautiful sicilian woman i´ve ever seen:
>>>
>>>http://mitglied.tripod.de/ChessBits/index.html
>>
>>Thanks a lot!
>
>give me a sign if you like her or not ;-)
>(you also can see her on ed´s site)

Sorry I could not find it, maybe because of my poor German. I'll go on Ed's site
than.
>
>>>i have no problems with different opinions and i like all computerchess-lovers,
>>>because we all are freaks.
>>
>>I do too.
>>
>>>
>>>be sure, that i´m not a nasty guy.
>>
>>I believe you.
>
>thank you :-)))))

My only friendly suggestion to you is to think about what you say and say it in
a way that will not hurt anybody. This is a general statement and not referred
to anything specifically. It looks to me that you a little to direct when you
say what you think about something. It is not a critic. I "speak well", but
sometime I make the same mistake, so I am not trying to teach something, only a
friendly suggestion.
>
>>
>>>
>>>the only thing i hate are lies about my person or about other things.
>>
>>I do the same, so we can be friends.
>
>very nice to hear.
>a problem between stefan and me should not be a problem between you and me.

I think that talking to each other would have avoid this, but it is only an
impression. I hope that you can clearify the matter. We should enjoy all these
new programs and not fight to each other...
>
>maybe i can visit you on my text italian trip.

Well, you are welcome to Bella Italia.
>
>good night
>marcus

Have a nice day.

Sandro



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