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Subject: Re: Strongest new program releases

Author: José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba

Date: 09:36:59 11/08/00

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On November 07, 2000 at 14:53:51, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On November 07, 2000 at 12:25:35, José de Jesús García Ruvalcaba wrote:
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>>Based mainly on tournament results.
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>So you base your judgement that Shredder is the best program on 9 games played
>back in August???
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Hi Christophe!
You know very well it has been more than nine games, Shredder has won several
tournaments in the last two years (it has just won CCT2). Of course it has been
previous versions of Shredder, but I have no reason to believe Shredder 5 will
be weaker.

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>> I do not really pay attention to private
>>testing.
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>You don't need to, of course, if you believe that 9 games are enough to tell
>which program is better.
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One tournament is not enough, of course. Perhaps I should emphazise the plural
in "tournament results".
Even several tournaments are not enough to determine objectively with certainty
which program is stronger, but they are enough to influence my own personal
subjective opinion.
Thousands of privately played games have little impact in my opinion. I hope my
position is now clear.


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>> I follow tournaments in which the authors are directly involved, like
>>the ICCA tournaments, the IPCCC, the French championship (congratulations!), the
>>Dutch open (congratulations again!), the Spanish championship (I have not heard
>>from it in a long time, but I think you won the last one... congratulations!),
>>and the CCT.
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>So why don't you say that Gambit Tiger is the best program at this time?
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It has won very convincingly two strong tournaments, and it ranks number two in
my personal subjective list at this time. If it keeps winning important
tournaments it will definitely replace Shredder in "my" number one spot. It is
simply not yet there. But do not worry, I do not think my opinion influence a
lot of people here.

>BTW I wouldn't dare to say this myself based only on the few games of the French
>and Dutch championship.
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But as the Gambit-Tiger author you should be very careful with what you say
about its strenght, I do not have that problem as I am not involved in the
development of any chess program.




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