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Subject: Re: Kuhn - relevence to computer chess -

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 13:16:30 11/08/00

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On November 08, 2000 at 15:10:41, Joe Besogn wrote:

>On November 08, 2000 at 14:48:18, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On November 08, 2000 at 13:33:11, Joe Besogn wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>I can't figure out the rest at all. What do you mean?
>>>
>>>I presume you're trying some kind of diversionary smear, but which thread are
>>>you refering to?
>>
>>There is no "smear" unless you consider being called "Chris Whittington" a
>>smear.  A smear is usually the word that describes the action where someone
>>tells something about someone that is not only not true, but it is 'bad' as
>>well.  I didn't do _either_.
>>
>>And yes, I am talking about the thread near the bottom about the "new paradigm"
>>
>
>
>You deleted the content we were discussing ....

What do you mean?  Deleted a post?  not guilty.  Snip?  Perhaps I
snipped something you thought was important?  I usually snip to save
bandwidth, and save the piece of the post I am responding to.  I don't
snip just to snip, nor do I snip to cut out something I didn't "like"
or whatever.

Ergo, I don't understand your sentence.




>
>>>Where is the 'private conversation between 'he' and Thorsten?
>>>
>>>Your 'many' and 'few' smear implies that I'm talking to myself somewhere. Which
>>>of Christophe, Thorsten, Fernando, Johnathon or Uri am I impersonating?
>>
>>
>>None of the above.  I am sure you can figure out the rest.  BTW it happened
>>in a thread that shows up near the _bottom_ of CCC, not in this one.  But the
>>same "pseudonym" appears there...
>
>
>You were talking about a 'private conversation with Thorsten', and then 'talking
>to myself' allegedly.
>
>Both of which are nonsense, as you know and begrudgingly admitted.
>
>You were wrong. You made a smear, because you're on another planet to your
>'enemy' and you dream up things he's supposed to have done, and then repeat your
>dreams in public.

I didn't dream up a thing.  Thorsten mentioned CSTal.  You chimed in as though
you were a third party.  You were really the _second_ party.  That isn't a
smear, unless you have this new dictionary that says smear -> truth.  A smear
is generally false.



>
>Is "sorry", "genuinely sorry, I got it wrong" in your vocabulary?
>
>Your peace offer is noted. I'll respond to you after a satisfactory resolution
>here.

What resolution are you looking for.  And your not responding is not causing
me to lose sleep.  I thought it might be a good time for you to rejoin the
world here as yourself, and participate as yourself.  Would I like to see you
come back? yep.  Would I hold my breath until you do?  Nope.  Will I hang my
head and mope if you don't?  Nope.  It would just be the most reasonable
conclusion to this series of alter-egos.

I stand up for what I believe in.  As myself.  Can you do the same?  If so,
we can get along just fine, even if we don't agree on everything.  But I am
not going to post as joe-the-used-car-salesman and talk about myself in the
third person.

But to be accurate, if that is what you want, in _this_ case, I was certainly
wrong when I said you were talking with yourself.  You were talking _about_
yourself instead.  I was amused to find out where you registered your handle
from.  It shows a lot of foresight to plan that far ahead.  I also assume
there are others equally as disguised.  I don't quite understand the idea
behind doing this however.  You and Thorsten were discussing a topic that had
an 'implied' third party in the discussion.  Which makes it look like 1 + 1 = 3.
however 2 of the three parties were the same person.  Hence my comment.

Are you proud of what you have done with CSTal?  If so, why not stand up
and talk about it?  Rather than letting pseudonyms talk about it.  People
here post good and bad things about my program.  Some make me cringe (good
or bad).  But _none_ are posted by me unless I post as "hyatt".  I think that
is only reasonable.

And no, I don't want to reopen the debate about kicked out, or left.  It is time
to move on from that discussion.



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