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Subject: Re: Kuhn - relevence to computer chess -

Author: Joe Besogn

Date: 14:47:43 11/08/00

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On November 08, 2000 at 15:59:32, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>On November 08, 2000 at 11:02:54, Joe Besogn wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Kuhn concluded early that the conventional textbooks on the history of science
>>were simply wrong, not so much about facts as about processes and sequences. No
>>science primarily develops in steady, small increments — tiny accruals of fact.
>>Science develops in revolutionary spasms, with periods of consolidation between.
>>Both before and after revolutionary changes, any given discipline has
>>overarching theories, some models, favorite metaphors, systems of symbolization.
>>These ways of thinking — Kuhn called them together paradigms — not only define
>>the discipline but can be used to explain most of the phenomena in which the
>>discipline is interested, as did Ptolemaic astronomy or the phlogiston theory.
>>
>>Most "normal science" is not engaged in radical innovations, lonely and heroic
>>explorations of the unknown. Most normal scientists work with the puzzles for
>>which the contemporary paradigm is applicable. Those puzzles for which the
>>paradigm does not apply are typically ignored or even denied to exist. But
>>sometimes these anomalies of explanation cannot be denied, either for pressing
>>general reasons (in which case several people are apt to create a new paradigm
>>almost simultaneously) or because some atypical scientist finds the climate
>>right for the acceptance of his ideas. Then a new paradigm is created, a new
>>system of thought, which explains more phenomena more parsimoniously and
>>elegantly. Often, Kuhn tells us, there ensues a battle between the
>>conservatives, the adherents to the old paradigm, and devotees of the new ways
>>of thinking. When one side or the other wins, they can return to their more
>>peaceful puzzle laboratories.
>>
>>A new paradigm amounts to seeing the theoretical structure of a scientific
>>discipline in some new and useful way. The effect, if innovation takes hold, is
>>revolutionary. If the revolution is a large one, the effector or effectors are
>>often dubbed geniuses, and previous geniuses become denigrated.
>
>Someone else claims that we can't talk about paradigm shifts in our field,
>essentially because it's not an important field.
>
>I don't know a lot about paradigms, and I haven't read Kuhn's book.  In college,
>my libertarian roommate Jerry read it, and that was good enough for me.  That
>guy preferred Art Garfunkel to Paul Simon, avoid avoid avoid.
>
>New paradigms would tend to get adopted quickly in computer chess, since it is
>usually easy to provide evidence that something works.  Particularly strong
>evidence would be a program that wins.
>
>There have been a couple of times where people jumped on a specific bandwagon.
>People didn't know that full-wdith search could make a strong program until
>Slate and Atkins did it, and after that point it became typical to write
>full-width programs.
>
>There was another shift when Donninger published the null-move article.  Prior
>to that, null move was underappreciated, and after that it became the norm.

At first thought, it seems it is for the revolutionaries to _prove_ a paradigm.
The onus in this case being on you.

I try you on Kuhn's requirements, and will answer a response tomorrow, since it
is late here:

normal-science before null move you describe as what?

what exemplars from normal science time became anomolies? Were they important?

what was the crisis in normal-science?

what anomoly was then solved by the null-move technology?

how were chess revolutionarily programs different afterwards?

did anyone resist the null-move? politically?

can you say that null-move was more than just "puzzling" (kuhn's phrase) within
the normal-science?

Personally, I think it was great idea that required a real leap of thought, so
I'm open to the idea ....

I ask because there are of course developments evolutionarily. Kuhn claims these
as puzzling in normal-science. The revolutionary changes, he says, take place as
a result of crisis in normal-science. Presumably Kuhn sees paradigm shifts as
being at the top end of grey scale of change, where the scale is gradual, but
with a catastrophic over-the-edge-flip in some central region.


The other quick thought, is that Kuhn talks of pre-science, where developers are
working independently, without too much communication. The first paradigm arises
from this. Some of the items you describe sound like this pre-science period.



>
>Other programs have had success with techniques that weren't thought to be
>useful, for instance self-teaching.  This hasn't started a wave of self-learning
>programs yet, but there have been some interesting articles and some interesting
>attempts.
>
>We will probably see more interest in speculative evaluation since Christophe's
>speculative program has been a success.
>
>All the programs that I know of now are built on a brute-force framework, with
>selective extension and selective pruning.  If anyone can make a strong program
>that doesn't use these mechanisms, that will cause the most major shift we've
>seen so far.
>
>bruce



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