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Subject: Re: shredder 5 not the best

Author: pavel

Date: 00:58:47 11/09/00

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On November 09, 2000 at 00:56:15, Uri Blass wrote:

>On November 08, 2000 at 23:39:25, pavel wrote:
>
>>On November 08, 2000 at 17:34:00, Marcus Kaestner wrote:
>>
>>>On November 08, 2000 at 07:59:09, walter irvin wrote:
>>>
>>>>shredder 5 is not the best program , that would be deep shredder,followed by
>>>>deep junior.a multi proccessor program is going to be the best.
>>>
>>>not at all.
>>>in the chessbits-tournament rating list is deep junior (though on double-fast
>>>hardware) not the first. see:
>>>
>>>shredder x 2717 (40 games)
>>>century 3 beta 2656 (26 games)
>>>tiger 11.9 2624 (12 games)
>>>shredder 4s(chessbits-style) 2620 (28 games)
>>>deep junior 6 2616 (130 games)
>>>tiger 12 (new style) 2612 (31 games)
>>>fritz 6 2600 (231 games)
>>>tiger 12 2582 (120 games)
>>>shredder 4 2581 (221 games)
>>>
>>>even there are not enough games for some programs you can see, that deep junior
>>>hardly is the best.
>>>
>>>but i admit, that a dual-shredder 5 would have the best chances to become number
>>>1.
>>>
>>>marcus
>>
>> I dont get this.
>>
>>In your earlier posts you said something like "shredder5 is far from being the
>>best",
>>this is based on the fact, according to you, that you have shredder5.
>>but, in your tests shredder5 clearly seems to be more than 100elo better than
>>fritz6, and well ahead of others. (that is if you believe your test results).
>>
>>i am kinda confused, do you mind clearing it up?
>>
>>thanks
>>pavs.
>
>It is very clear.
>Tiger13 and gambittiger are not in this list and Marcus claimed that they are
>not worse than shredder5.
>
>Uri

even if I consider that, ( and also rely on this list) tiger 13 has to be more
than 100 elo better than previous version (tiger12) to be better than shredder5,
I "seriously" doubt that.
Not to mention I believe (not sure) I have seen it stated in the rebel webpage
that the latest version is 40-50elo better than the previous one. and gambit
tiger is supposed to be on the same leage.

so still it's not clear.... (as to what he meant)

pavel



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