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Subject: Re: Kuhn - relevence to computer chess -

Author: Joe Besogn

Date: 03:12:02 11/09/00

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On November 08, 2000 at 16:22:39, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On November 08, 2000 at 15:00:52, Joe Besogn wrote:
>
>>On November 08, 2000 at 14:50:08, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On November 08, 2000 at 14:09:30, Joe Besogn wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 08, 2000 at 13:32:04, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 08, 2000 at 11:57:13, Mogens Larsen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On November 08, 2000 at 11:36:10, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Good eyes.  Glad to see you are alert and picked up on the "ID".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thank you. I've known for a while, but an attempt to repeat the previous
>>>>>>irrelevant thread deserved a reply, however limited.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I particularly like it when he talks about himself in the third person,
>>>>>>>and pats himself on the back.  I still get a chuckle out of these
>>>>>>>conversations where there appear to be "many" but in reality there are just
>>>>>>>a "few".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Maybe we should all do that. It could be the start of a new paradigm to benefit
>>>>>>us all. Noone have to feel alone or feel that their views are unwanted. Be your
>>>>>>own most avid supporter.
>>>>>
>>>>>That is yet another "new paradigm" that Chris can have credit for.  :)  A
>>>>>group discussion between alter-egos of one participant.  I suppose the
>>>>>ultimate would be where each member has his own message board, where he can
>>>>>talk and argue with himself without being distracted by others?  :)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Another smear. You make 'peace' offerings in one thread and smears in another.
>>>>
>>>>Since I'm not aware of conducting conversations with myself, where is this
>>>>alleged thread that I may check?
>>>
>>>
>>>In this case, you are talking with Thorsten, about yourself, as though you are
>>>a third party.  My wording may have been poor...  as here you didn't talk to
>>>yourself.  But you definitely have in the past.
>>
>>No. And your explanation is nonsensical.
>>
>>"group discussion between alter-egos of one participant" and "he can talk and
>>argue with himself " is clear.
>>
>>An accusation of creating multiple aliases with the intention of
>>self-discussion. A smear. You said it, because you thought it. You thought it
>>because you're on another world, and you make assumptions about the 'enemy'.
>>
>>It's called paranoia.
>>
>>
>
>Actually it isn't paranoia.  It is "weariness".  As a moderator, I get tired
>of getting complaints about "this is really Chris, you know..." on a weekly
>basis.  And then we (myself and the others) have to go and study the posts
>in question, even if we really don't care about the subject, in order to make
>a decision about whether it is or it isn't Chris.
>
>That gets old.
>
>Would you like to know how many alter-egos we have deleted since I took over?
>And the same for the moderators before us?  It is a bit ridiculous, IMHO.  I
>saw this kind of nonsense in Cub Scouts, with young kids.  But by the time my
>son reached Boy Scouts, this kind of stuff had been left behind.
>
>
>
>
>>>
>>>It isn't a 'smear' at all, and my 'peace offering' was quite sincere, and still
>>>stands...
>>
>>I can see it still stands. But how do expect some kind of peace when you smear,
>>are forced to admit you were wrong, but effectively then repeat the smear.
>>
>>Are you actually capable of a straight "sorry, I was wrong" ? And sound like you
>>meant it?
>>
>>Waiting for an answer .....
>
>I responded in a previous post.  But, for your benefit, I'll reword it again:
>
>Sorry, I was wrong when I said you were talking _with_ yourself here, on this
>occasion.  You were talking _about_ yourself on this occasion.
>
>However, remember that it takes two to Tango.  You've hardly been an "innocent
>victim" in our discussions. So don't expect me to take the blame for every
>disagreement we have had in the past.  I simply suggested that we forget the
>past and move on.  I have no problems doing so.  I got past the 'grudge' stage
>20 years ago.  How about you?

This is an on-topic, non-abusive account that wishes to stick to issues of
Kuhn's ideas in relation to computer chess.

This side thread is, imo, utterly pointless and off-topic and I don't wish to be
in it. Consider how this side-thread grew, because the usual process will be to
declare it off-topic and disruptive and then blame me for it.

I'm a grown adult, father etc. etc., just like you. If you can operate
effectively in a mode of self-moderation, which is what you do, nobody moderates
you except yourself, then so can I. So can most people.

My last post in this side-thread.




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