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Subject: Re: Kuhn - relevence to computer chess -

Author: Enrique Irazoqui

Date: 10:31:00 11/09/00

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On November 09, 2000 at 13:08:32, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>On November 09, 2000 at 06:27:46, Joe Besogn wrote:
>
>>I posit that the IDEA is revolutionary because it turns old paradigm assumptions
>>on their head. It analyses failures of the old paradigm (discussed elsewhere as
>>anomolies), and seeks to use these anomolies to find a new way which fixes them.
>>
>>I posit the IDEA is revolutionary because it is, or has been, strongly opposed.
>
>It hasn't been strongly opposed by everyone, and there have been some earlier
>efforts to create a program that would intelligently sacrifice material.  Anyone
>who has even a vague idea how to play chess knows that when the read older chess
>literature and find that people have the positional attributes constrained to
>-0.99 .. +0.99, that's nonsense.
>
>MChess returns very large scores for positional attributes, and it has done this
>since the mid-90's at least.  The first MChess I had would lose a pawn and think
>it was doing OK, although there were times when I disagreed.

Some Novag Constellations did the same or more about 10 years ago. As far as I
know, David Kittinger was the pioneer in this regard.

Enrique

>I believe there have been a lot of long-terms sacrifices in recent tournaments,
>it doesn't seem uncommon to hear about one.
>
>My own program is not very good at speculative attacks, but that's because I
>haven't done a good job of communicating my intent to the program, not because I
>oppose the idea.
>
>bruce
>
>>>This is an evolution,
>>
>>Revolution. It fits the Kuhn theory, imo.
>>
>>
>>> it's something for others to experiment with, and
>>>nobody will have to rewrite their program to do it.
>>
>>True. Rewriting programs is not necessary. Rewriting part of the practitioners
>>brain, is.
>>
>>To do it, you have to think different. The revolution is in your own head. Risky
>>guesses instead of accuracy, seek chaos instead of seek quietness. Handle the
>>chaos instead of pretending it doesn't exist. Chaos is good for you.
>>
>>Revolution in thought of programmer. Hence connected to politics (avoid, avoid,
>>avoid). Hence connected to personality of programmer (avoid, avoid, avoid).
>>
>>QED.



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