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Subject: Re: Fritz Better Than Junior Against Humans! (IMHO)

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 02:31:15 11/10/00

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On November 10, 2000 at 04:58:41, Graham Laight wrote:

>On November 09, 2000 at 19:14:44, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On November 09, 2000 at 18:26:25, Graham Laight wrote:
>>
>>>A pattern is emerging that Fritz is outscoring Junior against high ranking human
>>>players.
>>>
>>>This is all my humble opinion, of course, but I think that Junior is probably
>>>tuned to play against other computers - more so than Fritz.
>>
>>I disagree.
>>Fritz's ssdf rating is always more than Junior's rating
>>Fritz came second in the last WMCCC when Junior was less succesful.
>>
>>Fritz failed in the israeli league against humans when Junior got better result.
>
>What were the results of the 2 programs in the Israeli league?

If you do not include comp-comp games then Junior got 4 out of 5 and Fritz got 5
out of 9 in the israeli league.

>
>If I'm wrong, I'll admit it.
>
>My feeling about Junior being poor against humans was based on its results in
>Dortmund. Make no mistake - they were the best results a program had ever
>achieved on a commercially available platform, so my viewpoint must seem
>churlish. None the less, I was truly disappointed that Junior didn't come out
>ahead of the GMs at this event.
>
>-g

I think that Junior's result in dortmund was a very good result.
Fritz's result in the dutch human championship was clearly worse(Junior had
better hardware but the difference was only close to being twice faster).

Fritz scored more than 50% in the dutch championship but the opponents were
clearly weaker and the performance of Fritz was close to 2600 when the
performance of Junior in dortmund was slightly more than 2700.

Uri



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