Author: Joe Besogn
Date: 07:43:03 11/10/00
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On November 10, 2000 at 10:32:33, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On November 10, 2000 at 07:58:47, Thorsten Czub wrote: > >>On November 09, 2000 at 22:51:40, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>I let crafty chug for a while after Qe7, and it likes e5, with a score that >>>is not much different from the Kh1 score. IE it doesn't see any loss of >>>material that It reports... this was through depth=12... >>> >>>Here is the 13 ply output: >>> >>> 13 10:54 -1.39 39. ... e5 40. Rh4 e4 41. Bb6 Qf6 42. >>> Bxd8 Rxd8 43. Qxf6 gxf6 44. Kf2 Rc8 >>> 45. Re2 Nf5 46. Rg4+ Kh7 >> >> >>this only shows IMO that crafty is a little old-fahioned. >>Buy hiarcs or cstal or gambit-tiger if you want to find out >>about the position. as i said: >> >>old paradigm programs have no idea how to evaluate chaos. > > >I notice your list of "new-paradigm" programs is growing. When does it >subsume _all_ of the programs? > > >>you can forget them in those positions. >> >>the only reason hiarcs or cstal are not killing anybody is: they are >>both outsearched. but for analysis, this works cause there they >>get enough time. >> >>try to defend (the lost position and the lost old paradigm). >> >>i know: you know the earth is a disk. i will not be able to convince you >>it isn't. > > >That is maybe your problem. If you only watch TV, you might be convinced it >is just a disc. If you dive in and do _research_ you find the _truth_. What is "the truth" - are there any other "truths"? I think the problem is that these researchers to whom you refer find the truth that they are looking for, within the framework of the set of rules and procedures that have been established in their particular field. It is as if they all only "watch TV". You too. > >note that hand-waving is _not_ research... Thorsten never agreed to the same rule set as you. He looks in different places and according to different criteria. The fact that you refer to this as "flag-waving" is your problem and misfortune. Simply revealing that you're not open to new ideas from outside your frame. Shame, apart from that you're a very able guy.
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