Author: martin fierz
Date: 11:11:22 11/10/00
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On November 10, 2000 at 07:50:57, Thorsten Czub wrote: >On November 10, 2000 at 05:07:34, martin fierz wrote: > >>there are two points about this game which i would like to comment on: >>1) if there is something to critcise about crafty's play it is certainly >>not the evaluation (+3 - you must be joking...) but the 'dumb' Rc8-b8-c8 >>on move 24/25/26 and the knight manoeuver Nc6-b8-c6 just afterwards and > > >sorry - i do not want to offend you, but this is IMO nonsense. >the score of +3 or even higher is completely "accurate" here. > >black is lost ! >cstal and hiarcs and gambit-tiger see it (given more time). >Gambit-tiger sees it within seconds. > >how can you say the position in move 39 is NOT lost ?!? >do we really have to discuss this ?! hi thorsten, you are right, i didn't look too long, but in that position Qe7 is a killer. black does seem to be lost in this position. still, black gives up 4 whole tempos with his strange rook and knight moves which i mentioned. not even a 1600 human would play rc8-b8-c8 - it's ridiculous... that black is punished for this is ok. still, i wonder why you don't mention this with a single word but just go saying something about paradigms... i don't think black is lost before this rc8-b8, and there gamit tiger already gives a very high score (0.86). in view of the exposed position of the white king i find this quite optimistic. if i was afraid as black in that position i would probably go for 25...d4 26 Bxd4 Nxd4 27. Qxd4 Bc6 and even though white is a pawn up i don't think he has a serious advantage. but maybe the tiger has a different opinion :-) cheers martin
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