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Subject: Re: If Shredder 4 is that strong Version 5 will even destroy DF 7 !

Author: Chessfun

Date: 17:52:37 11/10/00

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On November 10, 2000 at 11:51:38, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On November 09, 2000 at 20:13:56, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On November 09, 2000 at 18:57:37, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>If Shredder 4.00 is really that strong which was never tested on the SSDF
>>>then Shredder 5.00 claim is legitimate of being the strongest available P.C.
>>>chess program
>>
>>
>>You really should be more factual.
>>Shredder 4 is on the list. Admitedly not as Shredder 4 but you have been
>>reading this forum long enough to know as I do that it is there. Also this
>>week games were actually posted in this forum of Shredder 4 whether this was
>>identified as Shredder finally by mistake is the only unknown.
>>http://site2936.dellhost.com/forums/1/message.shtml?137103
>>
>>Any claim currently IMO by any program as being the strongest available
>>PC program is wrong. It maybe ok to say estimated as being stronger than
>>Fritz 6 or IMO stronger, but until I actually see the numbers posted by the SSDF
>>I won't believe them. There is a difference is beating Fritz 6 than being the
>>strongest overall after playing different programs.
>>
>>Sarah.
>
>
>I believe you will find that _every_ program has its nemesis.  It might win
>> 60% against most programs.  But there is almost always that _one_ program
>that it loses consistently to, or that it doesn't do as well against as it
>does against the others...
>
>You can take a group of programs, and by careful manipulation, pair them so
>that program X wins most of the time.  Because the "nemesis" program is put
>into a place where it must play its nemesis before it plays the one that is
>supposed to win.  That is why small tournaments really don't tell the whole
>story.  It takes several, with totally different pairings, to reveal the
>real 'winner'.


I agree which was why I wrote the last line.

Sarah.




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