Author: Bruce Moreland
Date: 17:53:32 11/10/00
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On November 10, 2000 at 13:55:33, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On November 10, 2000 at 12:14:05, Joe Besogn wrote: >>I presume from earlier allegations that you mean CSTal. So you've been arguing >>with Thorsten for five years about concepts in a program that "you don't have a >>copy of, you don't know anybody that does, and you wouldn't have time to study >>it in any case." >> >>Truly brilliant !!! > >If you build a machine that is supposed to make milkshakes, but all it >produces is horse manure, do I need to know how it works inside to know that >it is no good? > >IE if the results are all bad, then most likely the process is all bad as >well. But even if the process is good, if all it can produce is horse manure, >there isn't much of a market for it in an ice cream shoppe. This is the source of a lot of conflict between you two, and you'd no longer have to conflict about this if you understood what Chris is getting at. If the goal is to catch as many fish as you can, you will use a different fishing technique than if your goal is to have a more spiritual fishing experience. Its valid to do either as long as you accept either goal. If your goal is to win 65% of games, rather that 60%, your method may be different than if your goal is to have an absolute hoot 30% of the time, regardless of whether you win or lose these games. Regarding CST, if someone says, this is going to score more than 50% against some other program, I am skeptical. But if they say, this program will do something weird, romantic, and un-computerlike at least once if you watch it for a while, you bet. At least that is what I assume from games that Thorsten has shown us over time. There was one where CST went down a lot of material in order to create an attack out of nothing. I believe it won the game, but the opponent defended inaccurately, and so CST should have lost. This is a success or a failure depending upon how you look at it: From my point of view, this is a success. I'm not responding to the other silliness in the post you responded to. bruce
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