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Subject: Re: you can tell whatever you want, i like this game...

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 19:18:19 11/10/00

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On November 10, 2000 at 21:15:24, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>I also wonder why you try to debate when you have no idea how to make
>a point?  You posted the game.  I looked at the scores.

BRAVO !


> I ran a couple
>of positions to try to get my scores since you didn't include those.  I
>then commented.  There is another game here where Crafty was +5, GT was
>0, guess who was right in _that_ game?

you still believe hiarcs and cstal and gambit-tiger were inaccurate and
crafty was accurate ?!

>Or is that yet another "more time
>and it would have won?"

thats what you tell us always, that we use the slow single cpu-systems
for crafty when we should better use the multi-cpu-machines.

i wanted to show 2 programs playing a game. and the programs
have different evaluations more than 2 pawns different.

and what made you out of it ?


>Did it win because of the attack?  Which failed?  Or because it just happened
>to reach an endgame which it won?  I have posted games where the opposite
>happened.  So what?


so what ?

maybe we should count again ! i advise to count the votes from foreign
countries too. that shall make it for bush !



>  The point is "Is the speculation right, or is it a
>bit much?"

and the result of that question is ?


>That is mainly based on opinion, to be sure.  But it _can_ be
>discussed by people that play chess themselves.  I do this.  I looked at
>the position around move 39 and tried to find things that would produce that
>+3 score.  I enumerated them.  And I then pointed out why they were wrong in
>that position.  I gave details.  I get hand-waving and rhetoric in response.


they are not wrong. the position is lost.
if you don't see this we don't need to discuss, or ?

>Look at the other game posted today.  See if _other_ programs agree with
>you _there_.  Then come back and talk more...

Yes SIR !

>I'm doing just fine, thank you.  I plan on continuing to do "just fine"
>for years, I hope...

ok - i wish you all the best.

>I think you will find I am doing just fine with 4.

16 are faster bob. that will make crafty score 4 times faster the wrong
score in that position !

>Wrong.  You don't want me to see.  So you believe that I don't.  But don't
>try to convince me you _know_ what I see or don't see.  I don't think you
>(or anybody) is that good.  Except for the women on 1-900-psychic

ok.
kuhn is completely right.

we have to wait until the old dinosaurs die out.

>Continue to laugh from your third-rate country.

thank you bob.


> Which country is the most
>powerful nation on the planet?

:-))) thank you bob. you talk about the society with having the most people
in prison on earth ? the society where anybody has a rifle and
people run amok and children kill each other in school with guns
because the others are better sports-men, different color or not fat ?

i guess you talk about the society where they have a president-election
and nobody knows who is the winner ?!
it's not my opinion that this country is a banana-republik, its in all our
newspapers.


>  Which is the wealthiest?

where the people die on the streets. in slums. in the wealthiest
country on earth, the society that is so big that they can
have the biggest discrepance between poor and rich all in ONE country ?!
a society that still kills people by government ?!

what a glorius society.



>  And you laugh at
>us?  :)

right. we do it.

>You send your kids to our schools,

to get them killed by amoking american kids ?! no - thank you.

>to work in our land of opportunity?

?? i will never bring on foot on the indians land. it was never YOUR country.
this land was never yours. you have stolen it from the indians bob.
be proud of it.


> And
>you laugh at us?  Or maybe are you laughing at yourself?

nono. we have no president that was an actor. or that had sex with levinsky
or not. or we don't know how many votes have been.
we never had this comedy ...


>I don't throw anybody out.  I asked him to post as himself.  I have not
>gotten a response.  I assume that means "no thanks".  Which is his choice.
>If you want to be thrown out, just log out and don't come back.  Nobody
>forces any of us to stay here.

thank you.

which was the text the guy posted that was against the charta of this
newsgroup ?
or do you rewrite the charta en passant as you want/need it ?




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