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Subject: Re: Possible match between Chessmaster 8000, Rebel Tiger 13. 4-Daniel

Author: Chessfun

Date: 05:31:48 11/11/00

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On November 10, 2000 at 23:28:08, John Merlino wrote:

>On November 10, 2000 at 20:51:03, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On November 10, 2000 at 14:54:36, John Merlino wrote:
>>
>>>On November 10, 2000 at 05:49:58, Chessfun wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 10, 2000 at 01:24:38, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 09, 2000 at 20:39:27, Chessfun wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On November 09, 2000 at 08:33:32, Peter Skinner wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I would like to know the following things:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Is Rebel Tiger 13 winboard compatible?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Since Chessmaster 8000 is winboard compatible, secondary time control features
>>>>>>>>are avaiable right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yes Rebel Tiger is winboard compatitble. In fact, I have close to 25 engines
>>>>>>>currently in the ChessPartner interface ( Same interface as Rebel Tiger ).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This is kinda misleading as Daniel wants to know if he can play both these
>>>>>>programs automatically. To which the answer is no.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You will neither be able to run CM8K inside of Rebel (CP5) nor run ChessTiger
>>>>>>13.0 inside of the CM8K. In both cases neither program has a winboard engine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In the case of both programs you can run a winboard engine. In the case of the
>>>>>>CM apparently you will be able to play CM v a Winboard eng. In the case of
>>>>>>ChessTiger you will not be able to as it will only load one engine alone. You
>>>>>>will not be able in CP5 Interface to play say ChessTiger 13.0 v a winboard eng.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This may be possible using A232 on a single computer connected to 2 com ports
>>>>>>and running two instances of the program however I myself have not tried it to
>>>>>>confirm this can be done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Lastly trying to run automatically ChessTiger 13.0 v CM8K on a single computer
>>>>>>automatically through two com ports will not work as the CM don't support
>>>>>>auto232. Therefore it can only be done manually.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sarah.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Remi Coulom has written a program that disguise itself as a Winboard engine but
>>>>>actually is just an open port to a distant engine thru Auto232.
>>>>>
>>>>>By using this "engine" in CM8000, it is maybe possible to make it artificially
>>>>>compatible with Auto232.
>>>>>
>>>>>And one can even dream that it could work on one computer with COM1 connected to
>>>>>COM2, and would allow CM8000 to play against Tiger13 on one computer.
>>>>>
>>>>>At least it is worth a good try...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>    Christophe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>You are correct. Attempts will be made to try to autoplay the CM.
>>>>Another possibility is through the internet or using Ebbi's autoplayer.
>>>>
>>>>Both Remi's and Ebbi's made it possible to auto232 Winboard and other
>>>>programs which were not designed to comply with auto232.
>>>>
>>>>I never mentioned it at this point as with even CM7K I'm not sure what
>>>>the actual engine file is called as it don't appear as clearcut as with
>>>>other programs.
>>>>
>>>>Sarah.
>>>
>>>Prior to CM8000, the engine did not exist as a separate file. It was given to
>>>the development team as a "lib" file that was statically linked into the
>>>Chessmaster EXE file. That is why you couldn't find "the engine file".
>>>
>>>jm
>>
>>John,
>>    Does that mean I will be able to find an engine file in CM8K.
>>Assuming yes then the possibilites of autoplaying are very good !!.
>>
>>Sarah.
>
>Since everything is WinBoard in CM8K, there is a separate engine file now, and
>it is called "The King.exe". However, there is quite a bit of security code to
>ensure that the engine program is not used outside Chessmaster. I don't know if
>the auto232 program needs to be "in control" or if it, as someone has suggested,
>can be imported as a "personality". This all remains to be seen, but I'm keeping
>my hopes up that one of you more intelligent and persistent folks will figure it
>out.
>
>jm


I think it'll work as the a232 don't need to remove the file from
it's original directory.

If it is possible I will get it running in my current 60/3 tourney.
This assumes I can get it within a week or so. Typically here I would
pick up something like CM at EB http://www.ebworld.com/ebx/default.asp
where it says it is available as a new release today !!.

I'll phone the local store and see if/when they will have it.

Sarah.



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