Author: Chessfun
Date: 10:20:28 11/11/00
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On November 11, 2000 at 13:05:49, John Merlino wrote: >On November 11, 2000 at 08:31:48, Chessfun wrote: > >>On November 10, 2000 at 23:28:08, John Merlino wrote: >> >>>On November 10, 2000 at 20:51:03, Chessfun wrote: >>> >>>>On November 10, 2000 at 14:54:36, John Merlino wrote: >>>> >>>>>On November 10, 2000 at 05:49:58, Chessfun wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On November 10, 2000 at 01:24:38, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On November 09, 2000 at 20:39:27, Chessfun wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On November 09, 2000 at 08:33:32, Peter Skinner wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>I would like to know the following things: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Is Rebel Tiger 13 winboard compatible? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Since Chessmaster 8000 is winboard compatible, secondary time control features >>>>>>>>>>are avaiable right? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Yes Rebel Tiger is winboard compatitble. In fact, I have close to 25 engines >>>>>>>>>currently in the ChessPartner interface ( Same interface as Rebel Tiger ). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>This is kinda misleading as Daniel wants to know if he can play both these >>>>>>>>programs automatically. To which the answer is no. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>You will neither be able to run CM8K inside of Rebel (CP5) nor run ChessTiger >>>>>>>>13.0 inside of the CM8K. In both cases neither program has a winboard engine. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>In the case of both programs you can run a winboard engine. In the case of the >>>>>>>>CM apparently you will be able to play CM v a Winboard eng. In the case of >>>>>>>>ChessTiger you will not be able to as it will only load one engine alone. You >>>>>>>>will not be able in CP5 Interface to play say ChessTiger 13.0 v a winboard eng. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>This may be possible using A232 on a single computer connected to 2 com ports >>>>>>>>and running two instances of the program however I myself have not tried it to >>>>>>>>confirm this can be done. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Lastly trying to run automatically ChessTiger 13.0 v CM8K on a single computer >>>>>>>>automatically through two com ports will not work as the CM don't support >>>>>>>>auto232. Therefore it can only be done manually. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Sarah. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Remi Coulom has written a program that disguise itself as a Winboard engine but >>>>>>>actually is just an open port to a distant engine thru Auto232. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>By using this "engine" in CM8000, it is maybe possible to make it artificially >>>>>>>compatible with Auto232. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>And one can even dream that it could work on one computer with COM1 connected to >>>>>>>COM2, and would allow CM8000 to play against Tiger13 on one computer. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>At least it is worth a good try... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Christophe >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>You are correct. Attempts will be made to try to autoplay the CM. >>>>>>Another possibility is through the internet or using Ebbi's autoplayer. >>>>>> >>>>>>Both Remi's and Ebbi's made it possible to auto232 Winboard and other >>>>>>programs which were not designed to comply with auto232. >>>>>> >>>>>>I never mentioned it at this point as with even CM7K I'm not sure what >>>>>>the actual engine file is called as it don't appear as clearcut as with >>>>>>other programs. >>>>>> >>>>>>Sarah. >>>>> >>>>>Prior to CM8000, the engine did not exist as a separate file. It was given to >>>>>the development team as a "lib" file that was statically linked into the >>>>>Chessmaster EXE file. That is why you couldn't find "the engine file". >>>>> >>>>>jm >>>> >>>>John, >>>> Does that mean I will be able to find an engine file in CM8K. >>>>Assuming yes then the possibilites of autoplaying are very good !!. >>>> >>>>Sarah. >>> >>>Since everything is WinBoard in CM8K, there is a separate engine file now, and >>>it is called "The King.exe". However, there is quite a bit of security code to >>>ensure that the engine program is not used outside Chessmaster. I don't know if >>>the auto232 program needs to be "in control" or if it, as someone has suggested, >>>can be imported as a "personality". This all remains to be seen, but I'm keeping >>>my hopes up that one of you more intelligent and persistent folks will figure it >>>out. >>> >>>jm >> >> >>I think it'll work as the a232 don't need to remove the file from >>it's original directory. >> >>If it is possible I will get it running in my current 60/3 tourney. >>This assumes I can get it within a week or so. Typically here I would >>pick up something like CM at EB http://www.ebworld.com/ebx/default.asp >>where it says it is available as a new release today !!. >> >>I'll phone the local store and see if/when they will have it. >> >>Sarah. > >Actually, when I said that it couldn't be used "outside Chessmaster", I meant >that Chessmaster had to be running and communicating directly with "The King" >program for it to work. Otherwise it will, as far as I can recall, perform a >search of 1K positions and return a pretty much random legal move "immediately". >This, of course, will be easily noticeable. > >Perhaps you might be able to get communication to work with the auto232 program >AT THE SAME TIME as it is communicating with Chessmaster, but there may be some >other "bookkeeping" that you will need to do that will prevent you from just >letting the games play themselves without the need for human intervention with >every move. > >Best of Luck! > >jm Apparently they are expecting it on Tuesday so I'll try it then. Sarah.
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