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Subject: Re: Wrong

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 00:19:33 11/12/00

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On November 11, 2000 at 20:12:11, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>
>On November 11, 2000 at 18:33:52, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On November 11, 2000 at 18:20:25, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>>
>>>On November 11, 2000 at 14:36:02, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>I do not think that Hiarcs has big king attack scores relative to other
>>>>programs.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>wrong
>>
>>I think that your impression of bigger scores of hiarcs may be because of the
>>fact that hiarcs has bigger scores in general than other programs.
>>
>>Here is an example that is not about king attack but about endgame:
>>
>>[D]8/2n4r/p1k1p3/PpPp1p2/1R1P1PpP/1P1R2P1/8/5K2 w - - 0 1
>>
>>This position is from one of the games between Fritz6a and Nemeth Eduard
>>
>>Fritz6a evaluated this dead draw as +2.94 for white and Hiarcs7.32 can see +4.39
>>pawns for white.
>>
>>This is not because Fritz is smarter than Hiarcs but because of the fact that +2
>>of Hiarcs is not identical to +2 of Fritz.
>>
>>Uri
>
>I see this all the time in games with my engine vs Crafty.  For example in some
>drawn endings mine will say +2 and Crafty will say +1.
>
>Some engines contain a term that's supposed to induce them to trade down when
>ahead material, I think.
>
>bruce

I agree that it is one of the reasons for Hiarcs's bigger score but not the only
reason.

If black is a rook down in the initial position then hiarcs shows scores of
+6.xx when other programs show scores that are close to +5.

Uri



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