Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: Wrong

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 09:21:36 11/12/00

Go up one level in this thread


On November 12, 2000 at 12:00:05, Uri Blass wrote:

>On November 12, 2000 at 11:17:50, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On November 12, 2000 at 01:39:07, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>>
>>>On November 11, 2000 at 21:30:55, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 11, 2000 at 18:36:22, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 11, 2000 at 18:22:44, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>wrong
>>>>>
>>>>>I remember that you were one of the people who proved that hiarcs has king
>>>>>safety problems by posting games that hiarcs7.32 lost against chess system tal
>>>>>by king attack.
>>>>>
>>>>>Uri
>>>>
>>>>Thorsten changes his opinion more frequently than the wind direction changes
>>>>at the North Pole.
>>>
>>>this is important if you want to combine all new data with the old data.
>>>hiarcs7.32 has not changed for a while why new programs have been on the market.
>>>in the moment it is not anymore state-of-the-art because others have come
>>>later.
>>>
>>>but at its own time, hiarcs7.32 was not that bad, the dos version was IMO
>>>better,
>>>but nevertheless, the program contained a lot of knowledge bob.
>>
>>Never denied that.  But it had king safety problems.  This was discussed here
>>in the past.  Against aggressive programs and against aggressive humans.  Being
>>"old" doesn't mean it goes from being good at king safety to bad at king safety.
>>That is an "age-neutral" characteristic.
>>
>>
>>>mark always tried to bring much knowledge into the program.
>>>i liked this.
>>
>>
>>So did I.  But like all program authors, he overlooked something important
>>because auto-playing against computers doesn't show it to be a problem if
>>computers don't attack.
>
>I do not think that it is the case.
>
>I remmeber that Hiarcs7 lost against Junior5 in Enrique's games because of king
>safety problems.
>
>I remember that I read that mark tried to correct the problem without success
>and the new version played worse so he decided not to use it.
>
>Uri

I think that he decided to do only some small changes that did not solve the
problem because the changes that solved the problem created bigger problems.

This is what I remmeber from Enrique's posts at that time.

Uri



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.