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Subject: Re: Nice victory ! Congratulations to Shay and A. Ban.

Author: Howard Exner

Date: 18:30:07 11/12/00

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On November 12, 2000 at 21:05:21, stuart taylor wrote:

>On November 12, 2000 at 21:01:08, Howard Exner wrote:
>
>>On November 12, 2000 at 20:42:34, stuart taylor wrote:
>>
>>>On November 12, 2000 at 20:22:19, Howard Exner wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 12, 2000 at 15:11:08, Tania Devora wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The program played very well in today game!
>>>>>Too, I think that the opening was very good for black.
>>>>>
>>>>>Congratulations!
>>>>
>>>>I followed most of the game on the Kasparov site and it looked like Fritz's eval
>>>>and Junior's differed significantly according to the commentators, who I think
>>>>are doing a great job - makes watching the game more enyoyable. The game
>>>>reminded of a typical computer vs human game but in reverse. That is, the
>>>>computer tossed its pieces towards the enemy king, while not bothering about the
>>>>loss of a pawn or two. That's how we all used to defeat computers in the past no
>>>>matter what our playing level.
>>>
>>>Is this a new version of Junior?
>>
>>It's described as an experimental version. Maybe Junior7 will offer two engines,
>>a main one and one with a more speculative approach.
>
>You mean, Christophe has changed the order of events in chess computing history,
>and others are following?

These attacking engines are lots of fun and may prove advantageous over human
opposition. If programmers spend alot of time on exploring such possibilities
they might feel it a waste just to toss the engine out just because it does not
perform as well versus other computers. I think Christophe's Gambit is the
product of much thought and by his disclosure was a last minute inclusion into
the Rebel 11 package. I like some others believe that Tiger 13 is a bit stronger
than Gambit. Maybe it was chessmaster that started the ball rolling with its
personality tweaking engine.

>  Might Junior 7.00 etc. be very strong?

I believe the risk is too great to release a program with no noticable strength
improvement. I'm guessing that the new Junior will be improved over previous
versions.
>S.Taylor



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