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Subject: Re: What is the best chessbase engine??? Junior 6.0? or Fritz6?

Author: Djordje Vidanovic

Date: 07:54:34 11/13/00

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On November 13, 2000 at 08:18:07, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:

>On November 13, 2000 at 07:43:09, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:
>
>>On November 13, 2000 at 04:26:43, Martin Grabriel wrote:
>>
>>>How about DeepJunior vs Junior 6?
>>>So far I only tested DeepJunior on a single processor PC and it is able to beat
>>>both Fritz6 and Junior 6 well on a single machine (eng-eng match)
>>>
>>>On November 13, 2000 at 03:33:04, pavel wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 13, 2000 at 00:05:13, Tania Devora wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Where i can see Junior6 playing against humans? In ICC right?
>>>>>
>>>>>Ban is a program nick name?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Amir Ban" is the author of the program "junior",
>>>>
>>>>My opinion is junior6 is relatively defensive compare to most chess programs.
>>>>It is STRONG, and as pete said more or less junior6 and fritz6 are on the same
>>>>level.
>>>>
>>>>I like junior6 more because it's a fast searcher, (though I know, junior's
>>>>"depth" and "nps"  are defined differantly).
>>>>
>>>>pavs.
>>
>>Deep Junior is a very strong program, probably about 30-40 ELO stronger than the
>>current Fritz 6a on the SSDF list. However, there is a new steed coming out of
>>the ChessBase stable:  Deep Fritz.  It should be stronger than any of the
>>current SSDF programs by a clear margin.  My tests indicate a 50 pt margin
>>between Fritz 6a and Deep Fritz (a conservative estimate).
>
>Hi Djordje.
>
>After 340 games played with DF T28/29a I get about 30 Elo over F6a/b on a single
>processor machine. What are your results so far?
>
>Enrique
>
>>Deep Fritz should be out sometime in November, I think.
>>
>>
>>***  Djordje


Hola Enrique,

Yes, Fritz 6 vs Deep Fritz is closely fought, probably the margin should be even
smaller.  What I had in mind was the performance of Deep Fritz vs other programs
as compared to Fritz 6 against the same programs.  Then the margin is 50+ ELO :)

Uri, the hardware I use is a dualboard PII-400, 128 MB RAM, and a o/c Celeron
433 (522Mhz), 128 MB RAM.  When comparing programs I do not mix apples and
pears, i.e. I compare only programs on the same hardware, usually playing on the
same dualboard (PII-400 vs PII-400, ponder on). On occasion I do use the two
different computers, but both my cat that loves playing backgammon, and my wife
(backgammon again) have objections then, demanding the Celeron and Jelly Fish
all for themselves...

***  Djordje





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