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Subject: Re: Arasan BEATS Crafty,in Chessvision GUI.

Author: Pete Galati

Date: 01:03:05 11/14/00

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On November 14, 2000 at 01:37:51, Paul Doire wrote:

>On November 14, 2000 at 00:00:43, Jon Dart wrote:
>
>>On November 13, 2000 at 22:27:20, Paul Doire wrote:
>>
>>>I recently downloaded Chessvision Freeware.IT is a database program.You can
>>>however play winboard tourneys with some
>>>engines.I.E.Arasan,Phalanx,Crafty,Amy,Gnuchess,Gromit,TCB,Bionic,Cilian,Comet,
>>>Yace and so on.They have preconfigured INI files for most.I have played dozens
>>>of games engine vs. engine and invariably Arasan is the victor by a wide
>>>margin.Yet as we all know on Winboard Crafty reigns supreme.Anyone know why?
>>>Comments?
>>
>>Well, for starters, running tests on one box with a GUI in between is
>>not the optimal setup (better to use two machines if you can). Plus
>>you need to make sure that the engines have a comparable setup: e.g.
>>both are using pondering (or not), both have opening books enabled, etc.
>>My guess is something's wrong with your setup, but I don't have any
>>experience with Chessvision so I can't be more specific. Why not
>>run your tournament with Winboard? Most of these engines were designed
>>to work in that environment, and you'll get a lot more help here if
>>you have problems with it.
>>
>>--Jon
>
>Thanks
>I run both with pondering,Chessvision requires you to use their databases for
>books.

That is a problem, and probably only part of the problem.  You need to run it in
Winboard where they each use their own books.  I messed up and ran a tournament
with Crafty that was using my book for it, and that cripples Crafty quite a bit.

I looked at the Chessvision site quite a while ago and decided I didn't like
what they offered very much, but that was just my opinion, I thought Winboard
actually offered me more personally.

Pete

>So all engines reference the same book.When I run the same engines in
>WinBoard I get a more typical result, like what you see posted here and at
>Franks WinBoard page.
>I thought I was getting a "deal" it was a free download and was winboard
>compatible to some degree and able to run tournaments. It sure was funny
>watching Arasan beat all comers with white or black, time after time.
>
>It's available at http://www.microvision.nl/
>Interesting product, but I would never purchase it.



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