Author: Ricardo Gibert
Date: 01:49:02 11/14/00
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On November 13, 2000 at 14:35:50, James T. Walker wrote:
>Seems the GM/IM players can not hold the computers at Game/hour an more. Deep
>Junior & Deep Fritz both won their game today.
I would not be so sure. The trouble with that assessment is the players involved
do not know how to play effectvely against computers. I would not be surprised
if there are savvy players below master level that can beat "strong" computer
programs at game/60. Take for example the following player on ICC:
Information about rabid (Last disconnected Mon Nov 13 2000 12:28):
rating [need] win loss draw total best
Wild 1717 [6] 12 27 0 39 1740 (13-Dec-1997)
Bullet 2722 [8] 232 2564 188 2984 2739 (06-Oct-2000)
Blitz 2346 336 3159 265 3760 2760 (05-Aug-2000)
Standard 2157 [6] 10 49 6 65 2231 (28-Feb-1998)
1: I like to play computers especially crafty clones
2: This inflates my rating
As you can see, this guy specializes against computers and has been able to pump
up his rating to over 2700 at bullet! I believe his true rating is 2100-2200. Or
how about this guy:
Statistics for MLBernstein On for: 2:30 Idle: 3
MLBernstein is observing game 175.
rating [need] win loss draw total best
Wild 1838 [6] 59 12 12 83 1851 (22-Jan-1999)
Blitz 2609 [8] 143 168 120 431 2609 (08-Aug-1999)
Standard 2361 [6] 34 97 82 213 2407 (24-Jul-1998)
1: Marc L. Bernstein from Laguna Beach in Southern California
2: USCF 2236 as of November 2000. Currently inactive in tournament play.
3: Normally I don't play on the ICC without at least a 10 second increment.
4: I am currently employed by ACADEMIC CHESS, an organization that teaches
chess to elementary school children and occasionally to middle school and high
school kids.
5: I enjoy opening theory and like to invent novelties. I also like endgames.
My middlegame play could use some improvement.
6: I am an experienced teacher of chess, mathematics and to a certain extent
the physical sciences.
7: My ICC blitz rating is much higher than my USCF due to my ability to draw
against high-rated computers.
I happen to know this guy. He is actually a fairly ordinary Blitz player for his
rating of 2236. His distinguishing feature as a player is he is an opening
theoretician. He knows more about some openings than many professional players.
If these guys can pump up their ratings by 400-500 ratings points, then I think
the strength of computer programs are something of an illusion. Programs seem to
have terrible weaknesses that can ruthlessly exploited by only moderately strong
players that know what they are doing.
The problem with computer programs is they cannot adapt to their opponent like
humans can. Apparently, adaptability is an important component of playing
strength.
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