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Subject: Re: Junior6a - Gambit-Tiger, PGN's

Author: Enrique Irazoqui

Date: 03:33:09 11/14/00

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On November 14, 2000 at 06:24:51, pavel wrote:

>On November 14, 2000 at 05:49:19, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>
>>On November 13, 2000 at 21:09:49, stuart taylor wrote:
>>>I think I understand now.
>>
>>thats always very good :-)))
>>
>>>Well! that almost makes me want to cry! (together with an emotional Gambit
>>>Tiger).
>>
>>?!
>>
>>>GT does not look anything special at all according to these results.
>>
>>50% against Junior6a.
>>So how will Junior want to beat GT in Elo-points ?
>>
>>
>>>You might say, "but it's not enough games to indicate very much"!
>>>  But I can tell you, that I anyway am always upset to see a program which I
>>>want to get for analysis, and main use, lose even one game, esp. to a previous
>>>generation program, since that indicates some inadequacy somewhere, compared to
>>>something else which is available.
>>
>>
>>you are upset? why ?
>>
>>>I would prefer if they were many draws, even
>>>if only the occasional win. That would look more reliably better. But now, it
>>>looks like in many ways, the old Junior6a is stronger than GT.
>>
>>junior6a gets - if it is lucky, 50% against GT, Rebel-Tiger gets better
>>results against Junior. But - IMO GT is the better program.
>>
>>i don't see why you are upset. its very normal that programs play different
>>against different opponents.
>>you have always ONE program that is a kind of fear-enemy.
>>thats normal.
>>
>>>S.Taylor
>
>
>LOL,
>I get your point.
>when GT plays against crafty, crafty becomes "punching bag" of the old paradigm.
>
>when GT plays against junior6, the results is almost 50%, your 'defense
>mechanism' comes out saying "CT is better against junior6 then GT"
>
>DUH!!!
>
>now dont tell CT is also the result of "new paradigm"
>
>isnt this supposed to be a test between the best of "old paradigm" and the best
>of "new paradigm", that i suggested?
>
>you know, you are so predictable and I am almost damm sure what you are gonna
>say next, and all I can do is kick back and laugh about it :)
>
>pavs. ;)

Paradigms aside, the fact is that Gambit scores very well. A worst case of 50%
against Junior 6a, Hiarcs 7.32 and Deep Fritz, while beating, sometimes
smashing, all the other programs I tried is very, very good. If you add up the
exciting and speculative playing style of Gambit, I would say that it is quite
an achievement.

Enrique



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