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Subject: Re: Computer sweep at KC today.

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 03:36:54 11/14/00

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On November 14, 2000 at 04:49:02, Ricardo Gibert wrote:

>On November 13, 2000 at 14:35:50, James T. Walker wrote:
>
>>Seems the GM/IM players can not hold the computers at Game/hour an more.  Deep
>>Junior & Deep Fritz both won their game today.
>
>
>I would not be so sure. The trouble with that assessment is the players involved
>do not know how to play effectvely against computers. I would not be surprised
>if there are savvy players below master level that can beat "strong" computer
>programs at game/60. Take for example the following player on ICC:
>
>
>
>Information about rabid (Last disconnected Mon Nov 13 2000 12:28):
>
>          rating [need] win  loss  draw total   best
>Wild        1717  [6]    12    27     0    39   1740 (13-Dec-1997)
>Bullet      2722  [8]   232  2564   188  2984   2739 (06-Oct-2000)
>Blitz       2346        336  3159   265  3760   2760 (05-Aug-2000)
>Standard    2157  [6]    10    49     6    65   2231 (28-Feb-1998)
>
> 1: I like to play computers especially crafty clones
> 2: This inflates my rating

I see from the statistics that this guy is losing most of the games that he
plays.

The fact that playing against computers inflate its rating prove nothing.

Reasons:
1)playing against players that are more than 400 elo better than you will always
inflate your rating because of the simple reason that you cannot lose rating
against them.
I can guess from the statistics that it is possible that this guy plays against
Crafty clones who are more than 400 elo better than him.


2)It is also not fair to play against crafty clones because you can play against
your opponents at home when your opponent have no idea about the games and later
repeat the games.
I will also have an advantage if I can train against you when you have no ideas
about the games.

We need to see people who like to play against programs like Ferret in order to
know because they cannot play against Ferret when Ferret has no idea about the
games.

Uri



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