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Subject: Re: Just another one of RebelTiger on ICC

Author: Chessfun

Date: 12:17:34 11/14/00

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On November 14, 2000 at 15:08:50, Côme wrote:

>On November 14, 2000 at 13:11:02, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On November 14, 2000 at 13:00:53, Alvaro Rodriguez wrote:
>>
>>>On November 14, 2000 at 12:54:00, Mogens Larsen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 14, 2000 at 12:18:05, Peter Skinner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>After move 18 there is _no_ improvement. I have no doubts about wicker-man being
>>>>>a computer.
>>>>>
>>>>>Being rated on ICC at 1800 is like being rated about 1400-1500 on FICS. There is
>>>>>almost no possible way for that type player to beat todays programs. I would
>>>>>inform speedtrap of his actions.
>>>>
>>>>That's a very speculative foundation for reporting another player. If he did the
>>>>same against human opposition, his rating probably wouldn't be as low as it is.
>>>>Besides, what's the big deal in cheating on a computer program.
>>>>
>>>>Mogens.
>>>
>>>It´s a big deal because the program expects to play a human opponent and when
>>>the person who is running the (C)(in this case Rebel Tiger) analyzes the games
>>>played against humans, he will analyze this game too and import it to a database
>>>with all human opponents. So, he will get wrong results.. Allthough, it´s just
>>>one game but if everybody cheats, then the results against humans will be
>>>completly worthless. IMO
>>>
>>>Alvaro
>>
>>
>>If you play 1800-level players on ICC, FICS or chess.net, this is just a fact
>>of life.  You _are_ going to play computer cheaters.  There are far more
>>cheaters at the lower ratings (there are also far more players down there too,
>>of course).
>>
>>It is a huge problem...
>
>Hello !
>Wrong again I think.
>How is it possible to have 1800 if you cheat with a computer ?
>If you cheat you have a much higer rating.
>Best Regards
>Alexandre Côme


There are naturally cheats who do not cheat every game but occasionally.
There are cheats who cheat only against the odd computer so their rating gets
a sudden big boost. Their motivation to cheat can be endless.
See: http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Realm/8655/DoctorUnclear.htm

That isn't to say I think this was a cheat, but to point out that computer
cheats are as Dr. Hyatt rightly says everywhere, moreso on the medium ratings
than the higher. As the higher ones will get caught.

Sarah.





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