Author: Alvaro Rodriguez
Date: 12:24:35 11/14/00
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On November 14, 2000 at 14:48:59, Chessfun wrote: >On November 14, 2000 at 14:18:08, Alvaro Rodriguez wrote: > >>On November 14, 2000 at 13:11:02, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On November 14, 2000 at 13:00:53, Alvaro Rodriguez wrote: >>> >>>>On November 14, 2000 at 12:54:00, Mogens Larsen wrote: >>>> >>>>>On November 14, 2000 at 12:18:05, Peter Skinner wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>After move 18 there is _no_ improvement. I have no doubts about wicker-man being >>>>>>a computer. >>>>>> >>>>>>Being rated on ICC at 1800 is like being rated about 1400-1500 on FICS. There is >>>>>>almost no possible way for that type player to beat todays programs. I would >>>>>>inform speedtrap of his actions. >>>>> >>>>>That's a very speculative foundation for reporting another player. If he did the >>>>>same against human opposition, his rating probably wouldn't be as low as it is. >>>>>Besides, what's the big deal in cheating on a computer program. >>>>> >>>>>Mogens. >>>> >>>>It´s a big deal because the program expects to play a human opponent and when >>>>the person who is running the (C)(in this case Rebel Tiger) analyzes the games >>>>played against humans, he will analyze this game too and import it to a database >>>>with all human opponents. So, he will get wrong results.. Allthough, it´s just >>>>one game but if everybody cheats, then the results against humans will be >>>>completly worthless. IMO >>>> >>>>Alvaro >>> >>> >>>If you play 1800-level players on ICC, FICS or chess.net, this is just a fact >>>of life. You _are_ going to play computer cheaters. There are far more >>>cheaters at the lower ratings (there are also far more players down there too, >>>of course). >>> >>>It is a huge problem... >> >>I played in zone some months ago, and the computer cheaters there where all >>rated above 2100+, which was a high rating then, probably in the top 100 on the >>site. I don´t understand how the computer cheaters can be rated 1800 on ICC, >>that´s low for a program ! Do they play advanced chess or do they play every >>move suggested by the program ? I´m confused. >> >>Alvaro > >They are very clever in how they operate. >They for example will play a few moves of their own or pick 2nd or 3rd best >computer choices. They make sure they lose games to slightly higher rated >players. They may play the opening themselves prior to following the program. >The methods are endless. > >Using a computer at ICC unless your account is a (C) is not allowed. >Advanced chess or so called don't exist there. > >Sarah. I know that you can´t sign-up as an "advanced player", but the cheaters can play advanced chess.. That´s what you are telling me above, they pick one of the suggested computer moves, maybe their 2nd choice and play that move.. The opening can be played by the player himself of course without using the program. That´s advanced chess IMO. It´s not allowed, but you can still do it. Alvaro
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