Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 14:27:20 11/14/00
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On November 14, 2000 at 15:07:37, Côme wrote: >On November 14, 2000 at 14:18:08, Alvaro Rodriguez wrote: > >>On November 14, 2000 at 13:11:02, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On November 14, 2000 at 13:00:53, Alvaro Rodriguez wrote: >>> >>>>On November 14, 2000 at 12:54:00, Mogens Larsen wrote: >>>> >>>>>On November 14, 2000 at 12:18:05, Peter Skinner wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>After move 18 there is _no_ improvement. I have no doubts about wicker-man being >>>>>>a computer. >>>>>> >>>>>>Being rated on ICC at 1800 is like being rated about 1400-1500 on FICS. There is >>>>>>almost no possible way for that type player to beat todays programs. I would >>>>>>inform speedtrap of his actions. >>>>> >>>>>That's a very speculative foundation for reporting another player. If he did the >>>>>same against human opposition, his rating probably wouldn't be as low as it is. >>>>>Besides, what's the big deal in cheating on a computer program. >>>>> >>>>>Mogens. >>>> >>>>It´s a big deal because the program expects to play a human opponent and when >>>>the person who is running the (C)(in this case Rebel Tiger) analyzes the games >>>>played against humans, he will analyze this game too and import it to a database >>>>with all human opponents. So, he will get wrong results.. Allthough, it´s just >>>>one game but if everybody cheats, then the results against humans will be >>>>completly worthless. IMO >>>> >>>>Alvaro >>> >>> >>>If you play 1800-level players on ICC, FICS or chess.net, this is just a fact >>>of life. You _are_ going to play computer cheaters. There are far more >>>cheaters at the lower ratings (there are also far more players down there too, >>>of course). >>> >>>It is a huge problem... >> >>I played in zone some months ago, and the computer cheaters there where all >>rated above 2100+, which was a high rating then, probably in the top 100 on the >>site. I don´t understand how the computer cheaters can be rated 1800 on ICC, >>that´s low for a program ! Do they play advanced chess or do they play every >>move suggested by the program ? I´m confused. >> >>Alvaro > >Hello ! >You are right Alvaro 1800 players don't use computers if they use computer >they will have a higher rating for sure. >Best Regards >Alexandre Côme (a) you are assuming they cheat in every game. This is rarely so; (b) you are assuming they use the computer for every move. This is also not always the case. simple cheaters get caught quickly. The ones that are more selective in their cheating take much longer to catch. But they definitely do exist.
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